I have no idea what you are trying to say.

Take your "H", turn it 45 degrees. You now see "existing" "H" -3 dB less.

Take your "V", turn it 45 degrees. You now see "existing" "V" -3dB less.

Since the antenna on the far side of you in a PtP or PtMP scenario is also a 45deg matching slant, there is no loss in received signal from that transmitter.

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Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com

On 03/07/2015 04:14 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
I’m not sure that’s true unless the AF does some sort of noise cancelling algorithm, which maybe it does. But I don’t see where the antennas alone accomplish that. Yes, +45 would see V at –3dB, but it would also see H at –3dB, and assuming they are uncorrelated, the addition puts you right back where you started.
*From:* Josh Luthman <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Saturday, March 07, 2015 6:55 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Typical improvement when using 45* slant

Ahh I see what you're saying.

Josh Luthman
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On Mar 7, 2015 7:53 PM, "Jerry Richardson" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    The slants will be for the AF5X which will see the rockets -3dB
    less than if the AF5X was on H/V

    *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
    *Sent:* Saturday, March 07, 2015 4:41 PM
    *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Typical improvement when using 45* slant

    Rockets don't decide the slant/linear.  The antenna does.  So
    those "HV Rockets" on the 45* antenna aren't HV at all.


    Josh Luthman
    Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
    Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
    1100 Wayne St
    Suite 1337
    Troy, OH 45373

    On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 7:25 PM, Jerry Richardson
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        I see I’m not ‘splaining myself adequately

        On a given tower, if I have some rockets (H/V) and I use a 45
        degree antenna, I should see additional S/N of x (3dB was my
        guess) between the two systems.

        While that +3db would be welcome, I’m not counting it.

        *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
        *Sent:* Saturday, March 07, 2015 3:50 PM
        *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Typical improvement when using 45* slant

        Radios are different, but slant vs pol won't get you different
        signals.

        Josh Luthman
        Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
        Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
        1100 Wayne St
        Suite 1337
        Troy, OH 45373

        On Mar 7, 2015 6:38 PM, "Jerry Richardson"
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            Looking to put in an AF5X with the 45deg slant antennas.
            Was curious if we would see any additional link
            improvements over the H/V Rockets.

            I’m just assuming we won’t to error on the side of caution.

            *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Jon Langeler
            *Sent:* Saturday, March 07, 2015 3:20 PM
            *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Typical improvement when using 45*
            slant

            if you have any links with oddball H/V signals, dual slant
            would level them out a bit to be about the same on each
            polarity.

            Sent from my iPhone


            On Mar 7, 2015, at 12:34 PM, Jerry Richardson
            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                Looking at using AF5X for a link with the 34dB 45* slants

                What kind of improvement would you expect to see over
                standard V/H polarization? +3dB? +6dB?

                Thanks!


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