I have no idea what you are trying to say.
Take your "H", turn it 45 degrees. You now see "existing" "H" -3 dB less.
Take your "V", turn it 45 degrees. You now see "existing" "V" -3dB less.
Since the antenna on the far side of you in a PtP or PtMP scenario is
also a 45deg matching slant, there is no loss in received signal from
that transmitter.
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Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com
On 03/07/2015 04:14 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
I’m not sure that’s true unless the AF does some sort of noise
cancelling algorithm, which maybe it does. But I don’t see where the
antennas alone accomplish that. Yes, +45 would see V at –3dB, but it
would also see H at –3dB, and assuming they are uncorrelated, the
addition puts you right back where you started.
*From:* Josh Luthman <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Saturday, March 07, 2015 6:55 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Typical improvement when using 45* slant
Ahh I see what you're saying.
Josh Luthman
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On Mar 7, 2015 7:53 PM, "Jerry Richardson" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
The slants will be for the AF5X which will see the rockets -3dB
less than if the AF5X was on H/V
*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Saturday, March 07, 2015 4:41 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Typical improvement when using 45* slant
Rockets don't decide the slant/linear. The antenna does. So
those "HV Rockets" on the 45* antenna aren't HV at all.
Josh Luthman
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On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 7:25 PM, Jerry Richardson
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I see I’m not ‘splaining myself adequately
On a given tower, if I have some rockets (H/V) and I use a 45
degree antenna, I should see additional S/N of x (3dB was my
guess) between the two systems.
While that +3db would be welcome, I’m not counting it.
*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Saturday, March 07, 2015 3:50 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Typical improvement when using 45* slant
Radios are different, but slant vs pol won't get you different
signals.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mar 7, 2015 6:38 PM, "Jerry Richardson"
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Looking to put in an AF5X with the 45deg slant antennas.
Was curious if we would see any additional link
improvements over the H/V Rockets.
I’m just assuming we won’t to error on the side of caution.
*From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Jon Langeler
*Sent:* Saturday, March 07, 2015 3:20 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Typical improvement when using 45*
slant
if you have any links with oddball H/V signals, dual slant
would level them out a bit to be about the same on each
polarity.
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 7, 2015, at 12:34 PM, Jerry Richardson
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Looking at using AF5X for a link with the 34dB 45* slants
What kind of improvement would you expect to see over
standard V/H polarization? +3dB? +6dB?
Thanks!