350/mo to get it done right and just worry about growing isn't hateful.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 12:56 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <[email protected]
> wrote:

>
> Last I heard powercode wassnt really interested in less than 250 subs or
> so.  At least that was their min license...(which I think makes it
> difficult to get started with them )
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
>
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: [AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a bridged network to
> routed. (More Info)
> Date: Mon, Mar 9, 2015 11:51 AM
>
>
> First thing I'd do is fire up a billing system.  Powercode or Visp are
> going to be the two options I'd suggest you start looking at.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 12:45 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Pretty sure you have to have Nat for that to work...
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
>>
>> ----- Reply message -----
>> From: "Brandon Yuchasz" <[email protected]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a bridged network to
>> routed. (More Info)
>> Date: Mon, Mar 9, 2015 11:43 AM
>>
>>
>> Alright so I have always said I am not proud too admit when I am
>> uneducated in an area if it means learning something I need to know. So as
>> embarrassing as it is Ill open to robe.
>>
>>
>>
>> All  APs are Cambium FSK and we are now deploying the PMP450 as well.
>> Backhauls are a mix of companies but we are looking to try and standardize,
>> Cambium, and Ligowave are the most used.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ill just use one site because they are all evolved in a similar way. But
>> we have several different sites that are all very similar.
>>
>>
>>
>> The site I would like to do first is Tower one, 5 FSK APs (PMP450 coming
>> soon) This site has a shed no heat and my equipment at the base is secured
>> in a locking large steel box. Think of a truck tool box. Backhauled to
>> Tower 2 through Ligowave and tower two has 5 FSK APs and one PMP450. This
>> site is really remote no roads and its all tied together in a weatherproof
>> box.
>>
>>
>>
>> So no managed switches, Single IP and DHCP. Never went then way of
>> NAT.
>>
>>
>>
>> We have no real monitoring for customers date use, we limit up and down
>> speeds at the SM. We don’t shape no caps you get the idea. So existing
>> equipment is useless for this process. Our customers are quite happy with
>> the services but I am blind. I will most likely double my size in the next
>> 6 months and I can’t keep doing it this way.
>>
>>
>>
>> Brandon
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jeremy
>>
>> *Sent:* Monday, March 09, 2015 10:51 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a bridged
>> networktorouted..
>>
>>
>>
>> Also, depending on your monitoring system, you should be able to track
>> CPE and AP bandwidth as is.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 9:48 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> The availability of inexpensive Mikrotik routers made this much less of
>> an issue than it used to be.  Even at micropops that I bridge, I put a
>> small Mikrotik like a 450G or a 2011 there as a managed switch.  That way
>> it can be converted to routed, often without a truck roll.
>>
>>
>>
>> One question is how you assign IP addresses to customers.  Static with
>> NAT in CPE?  DHCP?  PPPoE?  Do you NAT multiple customers to one public
>> IP?  This may determine which approach is easiest to migrate to.  Router at
>> each tower with block of public IPs?  VLANs to central site with big
>> central router?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* That One Guy <[email protected]>
>>
>> *Sent:* Monday, March 09, 2015 10:23 AM
>>
>> *To:* [email protected]
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a bridged
>> networktorouted.
>>
>>
>>
>> not to hijack you, but there are some who maintain a fully bridged
>> network and use VLAN instead of routing, this I am curious about, it may be
>> a cost effective solution for you as well.
>>
>>
>>
>> I started our migration 4ish years ago and had the budget cut out from
>> under me with only half the routers deployed, let me tell you, a 50/50
>> network sucks a great deal to manage. whatever you do, make sure you have
>> all your routers on your desk before you begin
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Everyone seems to have lived through this evolution at some point.
>>
>> A bridged WISP is asking for trouble.
>>
>>
>>
>> How many APs and how many sites?  Are the switches at the sites capable
>> of supporting VLANs?  That is where I would start.  Either that or
>> replacing the switches with routers.  Personally, one router with VLANS to
>> each AP via managed switches would be my preference.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Brandon Yuchasz <[email protected]>
>>
>> *Sent:* Monday, March 09, 2015 9:10 AM
>>
>> *To:* [email protected]
>>
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a bridged network
>> torouted.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am looking for help converting our network from bridged to routed. This
>> is something I don’t have a lot of background in but I also don’t want to
>> end the process having a system I can’t fix so I will need someone that is
>> willing to both do the work and teach me at the same time. Depending on how
>> the process works in regards to time I am hoping to spend an hour a week
>> working over the phone and through a remote desktop app.
>>
>>
>>
>> My main reasons for working on this now are I need to see bandwidth use
>> per SM, per AP, and have better ways of tracking both long term. We are
>> just to blind right now and starting to really grow again I need to get it
>> under control now before we get to large.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am open to suggestions on routers but already had purchased microtik
>> and butches scripts which after trying and failing to get it to work never
>> implemented.
>>
>>
>>
>> Contact me off list [email protected] if you can help.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Brandon Yuchasz
>>
>> GogebicRange.net
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>>
>>
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