Almost two...
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On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 8:35 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
wrote:

> Two already!!!
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Mar 11, 2015 9:30 PM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
>> Conversely not even a couple weeks in...
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, March 11, 2015 8:27:08 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] A note on ePMP 2.4 PTP mode
>>
>> Only a couple weeks left to arrive within this month.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Mar 11, 2015 9:25 PM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Except that you knew they wouldn't ship until this month sometime.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, March 11, 2015 8:24:02 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] A note on ePMP 2.4 PTP mode
>>>
>>> I ordered one a month ago.  Still haven't seen it.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> On Mar 11, 2015 9:21 PM, "Chuck Macenski" <ch...@macenski.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You know you want one!
>>>>
>>>> All airFiber 5X radios come with GPS sync (we even include a GPS
>>>> antenna and mount in the box).
>>>>
>>>> Chuck
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 7:50 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) <
>>>> geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  The only reason to use it right now is because of the GigE interface
>>>>> and 802.3af power ability.
>>>>>
>>>>> So come on Cambium, don't make me buy AirFiber 5X's.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/11/2015 7:19 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes! If the force110 PTP will get a PTP-only sync ability at some
>>>>> point, I'm going to start using them everywhere even if I don't actually
>>>>> sync. as they are now, I'm not sure it's worth spending the extra money
>>>>> over just using a standard force110.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 5:58 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) <
>>>>> geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  Yeah, if I'm going to buy the 110PTP radio, which we know is the
>>>>>> Sync radio with it disabled!, then let me do PTP-only WITH sync. I can
>>>>>> understand they don't want us buying the PTP radio at half the price and
>>>>>> someone figuring out how to hack it into an AP. For PTP links, I would
>>>>>> spend the extra $ for the PTP radio whether I need the sync or not, may
>>>>>> need it in the future, so why not put it up now. And I'm talking both 
>>>>>> ends,
>>>>>> you never know if you have to swap masters for timing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/11/2015 5:13 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know... I was told they were looking into doing just that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 4:30 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's software limited to not do sync.  I'd like to see it limited to
>>>>>>> being only a PTP, just allow the sync.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Josh Luthman
>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Mathew Howard <
>>>>>>> mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There was some talk of enabling GPS sync on the eForce PTP110, is
>>>>>>>> that something that is going to happen? with the 2.5ms frame, we 
>>>>>>>> should get
>>>>>>>> latency closer to what flexible mode does, correct?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>>>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But the force110ptp can't sync so it should always do ePTP?  PTP
>>>>>>>>> being possibly better if you have a large scale of synced backhauls I
>>>>>>>>> suppose.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Dan Sullivan <
>>>>>>>>> daniel.sulli...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Matt,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ePTP does not support GPS sync as there is no fixed frame.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> PTP mode is TDD based and does support GPS Sync.  The 2.5 msec
>>>>>>>>>> frame also will support GPS Sync.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dan Sullivan
>>>>>>>>>> ePMP Software Manager
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 3:17 PM
>>>>>>>>>>  To: af@afmug.com
>>>>>>>>>>  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] A note on ePMP 2.4 PTP mode
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  > Just a quick note on the enhanced PTP mode of operation -
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > You will see lower latency in most deployments as compared to
>>>>>>>>>> the TDD & Flex mode of operation. However, in high interference 
>>>>>>>>>> coupled
>>>>>>>>>> with long distance environments the flexible mode will do better in 
>>>>>>>>>> terms
>>>>>>>>>> of tput.
>>>>>>>>>> > At this time, this is per design but we will be addressing and
>>>>>>>>>> incorporating some of the good stuff from our TDD/Flex mode of 
>>>>>>>>>> operation
>>>>>>>>>> into the enhanced PTP to bring back the tput in the above conditions.
>>>>>>>>>> > Please note that we are also working on a 2.5ms frame to reduce
>>>>>>>>>> latency in the PMP mode of operation.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > Thanks
>>>>>>>>>> > Sakid
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Looking at ePMP in 5ghz for PTP.  Is there a way to do it WITH
>>>>>>>>>> GPS sync to allow frequency reuse for PTP yet?  Running out of 5ghz
>>>>>>>>>> spectrum.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>

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