It’s not the antenna, it’s a probably quite powerful signal processor in MIMO 
WiFi chips dedicated to that function.  WiFi would not be able to use MIMO 
without that function, since the antennas won’t have the polarizations lined 
up.  In fact the streams probably won’t be on different polarizations but 
rather identified by spatial separation or different multipath.

I assume Cambium could build this into 450 but as a software defined radio it 
would probably require more signal processing horsepower than it would be 
worth?  Whereas a radio built around an N or AC chip has the capability just 
sitting there in silicon begging to be used.


From: Kurt Fankhauser 
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 8:24 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 2 GHz deployments

That just boggles my mind. Why doesn't the 450SM work with both antenna types 
then? Why would a cheap $100 SM radio have a more sophisticated antenna design 
than a $250 FPGA radio? I can personally attest that you CAN NOT hook up a 
2.4ghz 450 slant SM to an AP that's running a V/H antenna. Tried that with 
horrible results....



Kurt Fankhauser
Wavelinc Communications

P.O. Box 126

Bucyrus, OH 44820

http://www.wavelinc.com

tel. 419-562-6405

fax. 419-617-0110


On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 9:20 PM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote:

  It works with any SM, there's nothing special about the antennas.


  On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> 
wrote:

    Any SM or just the ones that were made to support slant?

    Josh Luthman
    Office: 937-552-2340
    Direct: 937-552-2343
    1100 Wayne St
    Suite 1337
    Troy, OH 45373

    On Mar 17, 2015 8:51 PM, "TJ Trout" <[email protected]> wrote:

      There was an explanation made that was over my head even with 20 years rf 
experience but basically the sm doesn't care sees them both the same strength 
and no compromise 

      On Mar 17, 2015 4:35 PM, "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> 
wrote:

        I'm curious to know what everyone is using for 2 GHz sectors.  
Primarily linear vs slant but also OEM vs aftermarket sectors.

        PS.  I heard through the grapevines that the (integrated) CPEs can do 
slant and linear.  Is this true?  Is there no loss in signal regardless of your 
AP/Sector being 90*/45*?  If the patch antenna can do both, doesn't that mean 
it isn't focusing on one or the other and had to compromise?


        Josh Luthman
        Office: 937-552-2340
        Direct: 937-552-2343
        1100 Wayne St
        Suite 1337
        Troy, OH 45373

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