Careful, I have a relative (and friends) in a wheelchair(s).

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 3/19/2015 2:19 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Oh, duh, now I understand what crippleware is for...
*From:* That One Guy <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Thursday, March 19, 2015 3:15 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [BULK] Re: Consumer Blogs on "Net Neutrality"
is calling it the cripplenet going too far?
On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Dan Petermann <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Marketing opportunity.
    “our internet pipes are built wide to accommodate the disabled"
    On Mar 19, 2015, at 2:58 PM, Bill Prince <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Yeah, my latest Linksys router has a yellow-painted wheelchair ramp.

    Did I really say that?

    bp
    <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

    On 3/19/2015 1:51 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
    This one is going to be fun too: Telecommunication Access for
    People with Disabilities

    http://www.fcc.gov/guides/telecommunications-access-people-disabilities

    Your CEO gets to swear to {insert FCC Deity} on a yearly basis
    that you have done everything you can to make the Interwebs work
    for disabled people.

    " FCC rules cover basic and special telecommunications services,
    including regular telephone calls, call waiting, speed dialing,
    call forwarding, computer-provided directory assistance, call
    monitoring, caller identification, call tracing and repeat
    dialing, as well as voice mail and interactive voice response
    systems that provide callers with menus of choices. "

    "When conducting market research, product design, testing, pilot
    demonstrations and product trials, companies should include
    individuals with disabilities in target groups for such
    activities. "

    Is being an politician considered a disability?

    " The best way to provide the information that the Disability
    Rights Office needs to assist you, is to complete the Request
    for Dispute Assistance (RDA Form)
    <https://esupport.fcc.gov/ccmsforms/RDAformEnglish> online. "

    Um... OK.

    Mark

    Queue someone complaining that I'm being insensitive to the
    handicapped....  If that's the way you take this, you rather
    missed the point.



    On 3/19/15 4:32 PM, That One Guy wrote:
    maybe if across the board providers started strict enforcement
    of those policies, letting customers know this is all part of
    this "open internet" they clamored for, the publics support
    would wane. Minor inconveniences for the ADHD public can move
    mountains. hehee, everybody should implement dual factor
    authentication using the postal service as one of the factors
    On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Mark Radabaugh
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Yep - that's the one. The FCC likes to fine companies for
        not getting the required statement right.   Oh, you didn't
        fill out the form right - that will be $20,000 please.

        The FCC came up with the rules after the 'pretexting'
        scandals and used a sledgehammer to kill a mosquito.

        In any case it's going to be interesting to see how this
        plays out.   The rules do not prohibit using CPNI data
        internally for marketing, tech support, etc. but I see
        issues trying to authentice callers for things like email
        passwords, router passwords, wifi passwords.

        "Sorry ma'am, we can't reset your password because you
        can't remember your PIN number."

        Mark


        On 3/19/15 4:07 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
        Doesn’t CPNI require that we have a written CPNI policy
        that we file annually under threat of a huge fine?  I seem
        to remember Steve Coran warns us each year when the due
        date approaches and about the whopping fine for non
        compliance.
        I’m guessing this has to cover things like what our
        employees do if someone calls for tech support or wanting
        to make a change to their service, or if their computer
        guy calls for their PPPoE password or to find out what
        speed plan they are on? And not only verifying the person
        calling is who they say they are, but also that they are
        authorized on the account? This could be fun.
        *From:* Bill Prince <mailto:[email protected]>
        *Sent:* Thursday, March 19, 2015 2:20 PM
        *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        *Subject:* [BULK] Re: [AFMUG] Consumer Blogs on "Net
        Neutrality"
        And entering the data for each subscriber is mostly
        redundant information anyway.  The lat/lon and sector
        specifications are entered in the data for the base
        station. That gives you the complete polygon for all
        possible subscribers in the first place.

        bp
        <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

        On 3/19/2015 11:34 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
        Good point.  Worth pointing out to the FCC in my opinion.
        They are breaking their own rules.
        *From:* Adam Moffett <mailto:[email protected]>
        *Sent:* Thursday, March 19, 2015 12:31 PM
        *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Consumer Blogs on "Net Neutrality"
        doesn't have to be their *real* name.  You can use an ID
        number.
        ...though I have seen TONS of them where the ISP put the
        actual subscriber's name as the site name.

        On 3/19/2015 2:27 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
        Is there name there?
        *From:* Ken Hohhof <mailto:[email protected]>
        *Sent:* Thursday, March 19, 2015 12:25 PM
        *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Consumer Blogs on "Net Neutrality"
        Yet we put their lat/lon, street address and site name
        in a public database if we use 3650 MHz. Who makes us do
        that again?
        *From:* Chuck McCown <mailto:[email protected]>
        *Sent:* Thursday, March 19, 2015 1:15 PM
        *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Consumer Blogs on "Net Neutrality"
It is stored information. So primarily database files. I don’t think email counts. They did say SSH qualifies.
        *From:* That One Guy <mailto:[email protected]>
        *Sent:* Thursday, March 19, 2015 12:11 PM
        *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Consumer Blogs on "Net Neutrality"
        If we use powercode, that database in encrypted as far
        as I know. What bout email communication with a customer?
        Is WISPA going to put out some clarification for us as
        far as what exact requirements would be on our shoulders?
        And this exemption, for tiny bastards like the company I
        work for, will that carry over? I like exemptions to shit.
        On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Chuck McCown
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            I was at a seminar yesterday about this. FCC is
            proud of some huge fines the put on one large
            company for not encrypting customer info.  It was
            negotiated down to a paltry $10m...
            *From:* Mark Radabaugh <mailto:[email protected]>
            *Sent:* Thursday, March 19, 2015 11:54 AM
            *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Consumer Blogs on "Net
            Neutrality"
            We get stuck with all of the CPNI requirements. No
            more helping out the kid with his router - the
            account owner MUST be found!  And verify everything
            with the super secret password. Ok - so I
            exaggerate, but this is going to make things more
            difficult.

            I'm not sure what exactly the point of 'encrypt all
            customer data' is given that the front end is still
            going to be a web interface that happily decrypts
every bit of data and displays it in plain text. Never let logic get in the way of a bureaucrat
            implementing a politicians talking points.

            Mark

            On 3/19/15 1:50 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
            I thought the exemption was only for the enhanced
            transparency requirements, not any of the rest of it.
            *From:* Chuck McCown <mailto:[email protected]>
            *Sent:* Thursday, March 19, 2015 12:47 PM
            *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Consumer Blogs on "Net
            Neutrality"
            I have read the whole thing FCC rule.  We all get
            ROW access, we can only do traffic shaping if we
            are doing it for technical reasons and not
            discriminating (we can discriminate, but it has to
            be all streaming or all browsing or all of one
            certain type of traffic). And we must, must, must
            encrypt all customer info.  Not just keep it on an
            internal network, but any spreadsheet you have with
            customer identifying information must be
            encrypted.  I am not seeing a big impact for WISPS.
            And you are all exempt until December 15th too if
            you have less than 100,000 subscribers.
            *From:* Jason McKemie
            <mailto:[email protected]>
            *Sent:* Thursday, March 19, 2015 11:43 AM
            *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
            *Subject:* [AFMUG] Consumer Blogs on "Net Neutrality"
            Engadget just posted this commentary:
            http://www.engadget.com/2015/03/19/verizon-net-neutrality/
            Not one sided at all, eh?


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            Amplex

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