No, their database is encrypted.

It is only the *data* that is public.

/shakes head


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Chuck McCown 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 1:34 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Consumer Blogs on "Net Neutrality"


  Good point.  Worth pointing out to the FCC in my opinion.  They are breaking 
their own rules.

  From: Adam Moffett 
  Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 12:31 PM
  To: [email protected] 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Consumer Blogs on "Net Neutrality"

  doesn't have to be their *real* name.  You can use an ID number.  
  ...though I have seen TONS of them where the ISP put the actual subscriber's 
name as the site name.


  On 3/19/2015 2:27 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

    Is there name there?

    From: Ken Hohhof 
    Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 12:25 PM
    To: [email protected] 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Consumer Blogs on "Net Neutrality"

    Yet we put their lat/lon, street address and site name in a public database 
if we use 3650 MHz.  Who makes us do that again?

    From: Chuck McCown 
    Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 1:15 PM
    To: [email protected] 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Consumer Blogs on "Net Neutrality"

    It is stored information.  So primarily database files.  I don’t think 
email counts.  They did say SSH qualifies.  

    From: That One Guy 
    Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 12:11 PM
    To: [email protected] 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Consumer Blogs on "Net Neutrality"

    If we use powercode, that database in encrypted as far as I know. What bout 
email communication with a customer? 

    Is WISPA going to put out some clarification for us as far as what exact 
requirements would be on our shoulders?

    And this exemption, for tiny bastards like the company I work for, will 
that carry over? I like exemptions to shit.

    On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

      I was at a seminar yesterday about this.  FCC is proud of some huge fines 
the put on one large company for not encrypting customer info.  It was 
negotiated down to a paltry $10m...

      From: Mark Radabaugh 
      Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 11:54 AM
      To: [email protected] 
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Consumer Blogs on "Net Neutrality"

      We get stuck with all of the CPNI requirements.   No more helping out the 
kid with his router - the account owner MUST be found!  And verify everything 
with the super secret password.     Ok - so I exaggerate, but this is going to 
make things more difficult.

      I'm not sure what exactly the point of 'encrypt all customer data' is 
given that the front end is still going to be a web interface that happily 
decrypts every bit of data and displays it in plain text.    Never let logic 
get in the way of a bureaucrat implementing a politicians talking points.

      Mark

      On 3/19/15 1:50 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

        I thought the exemption was only for the enhanced transparency 
requirements, not any of the rest of it.

        From: Chuck McCown 
        Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 12:47 PM
        To: [email protected] 
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Consumer Blogs on "Net Neutrality"

        I have read the whole thing FCC rule.  We all get ROW access, we can 
only do traffic shaping if we are doing it for technical reasons and not 
discriminating (we can discriminate, but it has to be all streaming or all 
browsing or all of one certain type  of traffic).  And we must, must, must 
encrypt all customer info.  Not just keep it on an internal network, but any 
spreadsheet you have with customer identifying information must be encrypted.  
I am not seeing a big impact for WISPS.  And you are all exempt until December 
15th too if you have less than 100,000 subscribers.

        From: Jason McKemie 
        Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 11:43 AM
        To: [email protected] 
        Subject: [AFMUG] Consumer Blogs on "Net Neutrality"

        Engadget just posted this commentary: 

        http://www.engadget.com/2015/03/19/verizon-net-neutrality/


        Not one sided at all, eh?



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