Those clamps look nice, cleaner than a saddle clamp.

Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower
[email protected]
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291


On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 10:30 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) <
[email protected]> wrote:

>  Paul,
>
> Here's the example I was looking for. Check out these two pictures.
>
>
> http://www.r56audits.com/wp-content/themes/r56-child/images/tower-large-img6.jpg
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> http://www.r56audits.com/wp-content/themes/r56-child/images/tower-large-img7.jpg
>
> One of the reasons you want this is to limit how much anchor material loss
> you get. It may take years or even decades for the anchor rod to completely
> corrode, but that means the tower falls over. I've seen this happen at two
> towers over the years. And neither of them were grounded properly like this.
>
> On 3/23/2015 8:46 PM, Paul McCall wrote:
>
>  Well phooey..   a lot of this contradicts what my well-pay grounding
> expert, and well-recommended from to big EOCs in my area has to say about
> it.  At least the part of welding to the tower.
>
>
>
> I AM glad I asked and could see certainly see how a guy wire under tension
> could “break / cut” while cad-welding.
>
>
>
> So, in a typical guyed scenario (let’s say 4 levels of guys for example),
> I have turnbuckles attached to the guy “Flange/gusset – whatever you want
> to call it & deadends connecting the guy wires to the turnbuckles, the
> turnbuckles going through a hole in the gussets would not seem to be a good
> connection, so attaching the ground wire just to the gusset I think would
> be “weak” grounding.
>
>
>
> If the guy wires were to continue past the deadend, pass the turnbuckles,
> then it could connect to the plate, but how, if the cadwelding will burn
> through the guy wire.
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
> Behalf Of *George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
> *Sent:* Monday, March 23, 2015 8:42 PM
> *To:*
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cad welding expert advice needed :)
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>
>
> Nope, not close enough to get hit. Just wind vibration as far as I can
> tell. Always broken near the wire clamps. If the ground wire was stranded
> and could flex, then it probably wouldn't break. At least that's my theory.
> Can't hurt to try.
>
> On 3/23/2015 7:25 PM, Erich Kaiser wrote:
>
>  Why are they breaking?  Is the farmer hitting them?
>
>
>    Erich Kaiser
>
> North Central Tower
>
> [email protected]
>
> Office: 630-621-4804
>
> Cell: 630-777-9291
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 7:06 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> I have a problem site that we lose gear at every year (360' FM site). All
> of your guy wires are supposed to be bonded at the guy points (and the
> actual wires, not the pre-forms). And they're all broken every year. I've
> requested year after year that they do NOT use solid copper wire to tie all
> of the guys together. Instead, use like #6 or #4 stranded. But no, it
> doesn't happen.
>
> BTW, cadwelding is supposed to be done with nickel plated copper wire. And
> no, I would not attempt to cadweld to a Rohn 25 or 45 leg. The tubular legs
> are too thin and you'll burn through them. If you're using a base plate,
> that's probably OK.
>
> On 3/23/2015 4:01 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
>   I was not aware you could cadweld to guy wires.
>
>
>
> *From:* Paul McCall <[email protected]>
>
> *Sent:* Monday, March 23, 2015 3:40 PM
>
> *To:* [email protected]
>
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Cad welding expert advice needed :)
>
>
>
> First foray into cad welding… actually my logistics guy is digging into it.
>
>
>
> We basically need to do 3 types of welding for towers.
>
>
>
> 1)      Welding copper ground cable to the guy 3/16”, ¼” and 5/16” wires
>
> 2)      Welding copper ground cable to ground rods 5/8”
>
> 3)      Welding copper ground cable to Rohn 25G and 45G tower piece.
>
>
>
> Looking at lots of models, pieces parts.
>
>
>
> Anybody have some practical suggestions on pieces parts, vendors etc?
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Paul McCall, Pres.
>
> PDMNet / Florida Broadband
>
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
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> 772-564-6800 office
>
> 772-473-0352 cell
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>
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