he probably has dealt with ubnt snmp and assumes most of this industry is as big of a joke
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote: > I guess you're just not supposed to have any special features... > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Well, the standard mib covers most stuff. You add a little extra for >> your special features. What exactly is wrong with that? How else do you >> do it? >> >> *From:* Josh Luthman <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 31, 2015 9:25 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS >> >> >[09:35] <adama> everyone involved in wireless seems to be literally >> retarded when it comes to writing mibs >> >> I wonder if he has a cell phone. >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Daniel White <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I wonder what the Tier 1 wireless carriers would think of that too. >>> But maybe that isn’t their market either. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *************************************************************************** >>> >>> Daniel White - Managing Director >>> >>> SAF North America LLC >>> >>> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 >>> >>> [email protected] >>> >>> Skype: danieldwhite >>> Social: LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *************************************************************************** >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 31, 2015 9:22 AM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS >>> >>> >>> >>> I fucking love this guy! He needs to join the list. Him and Patrick >>> Leary can discus wireless >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 10:09 AM, Lists <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> This was on the channel #observium in open public chat (not private). >>> Its pruned to take out some joins/parts useless info etc. I simply asked >>> about support for Cambium and now we know exactly what he thinks of "wifi >>> people". This guy is a true professional. Funny they think Mikrotik is >>> "ghetto". Sure he makes some valid points about the lack of unity in our >>> MIBS. I liked his product for our infrastructure, switches, routers etc. >>> But I think I can get by without his product from now on. This is the >>> luxury of having many independent monitoring systems. It lacks any real >>> alerting system or agents for servers anyway. I literally started off with >>> that sentence. He added some cambium support a few months ago so I wanted >>> to know if more was coming. >>> >>> [09:34] <Smeghead> any chance of adding more cambium stuff soon? :) >>> [09:34] *<adama> are they another bunch of fucktards who make a new set >>> of mibs for every product?* >>> [09:35] *<adama> everyone involved in wireless seems to be literally >>> retarded when it comes to writing mibs* >>> [09:37] *<adama> yup, they are* >>> [09:38] <Smeghead> Yeah so I guess we shouldn't support it then and all >>> the millions of units out there. >>> [09:38] <adama> different set of mibs for every fuckign product >>> [09:38] <adama> jesus >>> [09:38] <Smeghead> They unified one of their mibs with the regular AP's >>> [09:38] <adama> can you english? >>> [09:39] <Smeghead> The interface stuff is the same for all of them >>> [09:39] <Smeghead> its your standard interface mibs. Other than that >>> really there is MAYBE 10 unique things per different product >>> *[09:40] <adama> fucking wifi people* >>> [09:40] <adama> you guys have 12903819023810 products from 129381 vendors >>> [09:40] <Smeghead> If you want to be thorough with them you could pull >>> all sorts of stuff out. >>> *[09:40] <adama> and you're always whining that we should support the >>> stuff you want* >>> *[09:40] <adama> well fuck you all* >>> [09:40] <Smeghead> *Yeah thats my fault as a consumer of those >>> products.* >>> [09:41] <Smeghead> All I want to do is monitor the best.. Cambium is the >>> biggest and most widely used next to Ubiquiti.. so I'd stick to supporting >>> those 2 fully >>> [09:41] <adama> meh >>> *[09:41] <adama> get them to send us hardware* >>> *[09:41] <adama> and maybe we'll give a shit* >>> *[09:43] <Smeghead> I'll see if we can send you cambium for sure. I >>> could even arrange you a login or set you up a vm on the network so you can >>> probe some equipment we have plugged in in a separate environment for you. >>> * >>> *[09:43] <Smeghead> I'm pretty sure I offered a few times. * >>> [09:49] <Smeghead> to be honest though - I don't think observium is >>> really hugely needed for AP's and subcribers. Maybe starting with just the >>> wireless bridges first would be the best start. That isn't so overwhelming >>> [09:57] <adama> you might as well go and hassle jaguar engineers about >>> how they really should build a pickup truck >>> [09:57] *<adama> i'm a telco/isp network person, i don't give 2 shits >>> about wireless* >>> *[09:57] <Smeghead> Who do you think delivers internet to the massive >>> areas between the major cities?* >>> *[09:58] <adama> i dunno, are we talking about retarded countries or >>> not?* >>> [09:58] <Smeghead> Yeah all of the Western hemisphere.. >>> [09:59] <adama> lol >>> [09:59] <adama> XD >>> *[10:01] <adama> my patience for people asking for wireless stuff ran >>> out long ago* >>> [10:01] <Smeghead> Well if you want more excuses to neglect a high >>> percentage of industry in the world that delivers internet.. yeah take >>> this one. Its probably too hard and too much work for you. Because the >>> wireless industry is retarded. >>> [10:01] <adama> i know it is >>> [10:02] <Smeghead> Yet I can make some cacti graphs in a few mins for >>> anything. Cacti is old and busted. Your product is new and refreshing. >>> That is why the industry is bugging you. >>> [10:04] <adama> go and make some cacti graphs then >>> [10:04] <adama> i'm really fucking sick of this shit >>> [10:04] <adama> it doesn't take 5 minutes to add support for things >>> [10:04] <adama> especially no nfucking wireless stuff >>> [10:04] <adama> so just fuck off >>> [10:04] <adama> it's not going to happen >>> [10:04] <adama> and every one who asks makes it less likely to happen >>> [*10:06] <Smeghead> But I'll bet if you asked for help you'd get it. >>> Look I was willing to set you up a network with all the devices you need* >>> [10:06] <adama> excuse me whilst i replace these 32*10G bundles with >>> some wireless >>> [10:06] <adama> HURR >>> [10:06] <adama> no >>> *[10:06] <adama> i'd get a pile of useless shitty code* >>> *[10:06] <adama> that's the only thing we've ever gotten from the >>> "community"* >>> [10:09] <aden> *adama: make Observium -3rd world edition, that only >>> supports mikrotik and ghetto wireless hardware* >>> [10:09] <adama> hah >>> [10:10] <Smeghead> Mainly because its (Mikrotik) like 10% of the price >>> and does the same job and even better in many cases. >>> [10:11] <adama> no, they use it because it "just about works" and costs >>> 10% of the price >>> [10:11] <Smeghead> Dragonwave aint ghetto nor some of these other >>> backhaul manufacturers. >>> [10:12] <Smeghead> and your proof is from what experience? >>> [10:12] <Smeghead> Sounds like a case of "they suck over there" and "I >>> know all about them, I've never worked in the industry or actually been a >>> part of any of it but I know what I'm talking about". >>> [10:13] <Smeghead> Those crazy brown people and their silly ways. They >>> are inferior to us. >>> [10:13] <adama> man, this is exactly the kind of shit that made us go >>> commercial in the first place >>> [10:14] <adama> dude >>> [10:14] <adama> just fuck off >>> [10:14] <adama> you're getting really tiring now >>> [10:14] <Smeghead> It takes 10x more effort to deliver internet to >>> remote people.. not to mention flexibility and creativity. >>> [10:14] <Smeghead> Than some pompous pricks sitting in their offices >>> *[10:15] <adama> so what was that, remove any existing wireless support >>> and hope everyone else fucks off too?* >>> [10:16] <adama> ok then! >>> *[10:16] <Smeghead> Hahh what wireless support?* >>> [10:16] * ChanServ sets mode: +o adama >>> [10:16] * You were kicked by adama (Smeghead) >>> Session Close: Tue Mar 31 10:16:22 2015 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team >>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >>> >> >> > > -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
