This pretty much is my experience with him as well, and it wasn't even related to wireless.
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Lists <li...@wavedirect.org> wrote: > This was on the channel #observium in open public chat (not private). Its > pruned to take out some joins/parts useless info etc. I simply asked about > support for Cambium and now we know exactly what he thinks of "wifi > people". This guy is a true professional. Funny they think Mikrotik is > "ghetto". Sure he makes some valid points about the lack of unity in our > MIBS. I liked his product for our infrastructure, switches, routers etc. > But I think I can get by without his product from now on. This is the > luxury of having many independent monitoring systems. It lacks any real > alerting system or agents for servers anyway. I literally started off with > that sentence. He added some cambium support a few months ago so I wanted > to know if more was coming. > > [09:34] <Smeghead> any chance of adding more cambium stuff soon? :) > [09:34] *<adama> are they another bunch of fucktards who make a new set > of mibs for every product?* > [09:35] *<adama> everyone involved in wireless seems to be literally > retarded when it comes to writing mibs* > [09:37] *<adama> yup, they are* > [09:38] <Smeghead> Yeah so I guess we shouldn't support it then and all > the millions of units out there. > [09:38] <adama> different set of mibs for every fuckign product > [09:38] <adama> jesus > [09:38] <Smeghead> They unified one of their mibs with the regular AP's > [09:38] <adama> can you english? > [09:39] <Smeghead> The interface stuff is the same for all of them > [09:39] <Smeghead> its your standard interface mibs. Other than that > really there is MAYBE 10 unique things per different product > *[09:40] <adama> fucking wifi people* > [09:40] <adama> you guys have 12903819023810 products from 129381 vendors > [09:40] <Smeghead> If you want to be thorough with them you could pull all > sorts of stuff out. > *[09:40] <adama> and you're always whining that we should support the > stuff you want* > *[09:40] <adama> well fuck you all* > [09:40] <Smeghead> *Yeah thats my fault as a consumer of those products.* > [09:41] <Smeghead> All I want to do is monitor the best.. Cambium is the > biggest and most widely used next to Ubiquiti.. so I'd stick to supporting > those 2 fully > [09:41] <adama> meh > *[09:41] <adama> get them to send us hardware* > *[09:41] <adama> and maybe we'll give a shit* > *[09:43] <Smeghead> I'll see if we can send you cambium for sure. I could > even arrange you a login or set you up a vm on the network so you can probe > some equipment we have plugged in in a separate environment for you. * > *[09:43] <Smeghead> I'm pretty sure I offered a few times. * > [09:49] <Smeghead> to be honest though - I don't think observium is > really hugely needed for AP's and subcribers. Maybe starting with just the > wireless bridges first would be the best start. That isn't so overwhelming > [09:57] <adama> you might as well go and hassle jaguar engineers about how > they really should build a pickup truck > [09:57] *<adama> i'm a telco/isp network person, i don't give 2 shits > about wireless* > *[09:57] <Smeghead> Who do you think delivers internet to the massive > areas between the major cities?* > *[09:58] <adama> i dunno, are we talking about retarded countries or not?* > [09:58] <Smeghead> Yeah all of the Western hemisphere.. > [09:59] <adama> lol > [09:59] <adama> XD > *[10:01] <adama> my patience for people asking for wireless stuff ran out > long ago* > [10:01] <Smeghead> Well if you want more excuses to neglect a high > percentage of industry in the world that delivers internet.. yeah take > this one. Its probably too hard and too much work for you. Because the > wireless industry is retarded. > [10:01] <adama> i know it is > [10:02] <Smeghead> Yet I can make some cacti graphs in a few mins for > anything. Cacti is old and busted. Your product is new and refreshing. > That is why the industry is bugging you. > [10:04] <adama> go and make some cacti graphs then > [10:04] <adama> i'm really fucking sick of this shit > [10:04] <adama> it doesn't take 5 minutes to add support for things > [10:04] <adama> especially no nfucking wireless stuff > [10:04] <adama> so just fuck off > [10:04] <adama> it's not going to happen > [10:04] <adama> and every one who asks makes it less likely to happen > [*10:06] <Smeghead> But I'll bet if you asked for help you'd get it. > Look I was willing to set you up a network with all the devices you need* > [10:06] <adama> excuse me whilst i replace these 32*10G bundles with some > wireless > [10:06] <adama> HURR > [10:06] <adama> no > *[10:06] <adama> i'd get a pile of useless shitty code* > *[10:06] <adama> that's the only thing we've ever gotten from the > "community"* > [10:09] <aden> *adama: make Observium -3rd world edition, that only > supports mikrotik and ghetto wireless hardware* > [10:09] <adama> hah > [10:10] <Smeghead> Mainly because its (Mikrotik) like 10% of the price and > does the same job and even better in many cases. > [10:11] <adama> no, they use it because it "just about works" and costs > 10% of the price > [10:11] <Smeghead> Dragonwave aint ghetto nor some of these other backhaul > manufacturers. > [10:12] <Smeghead> and your proof is from what experience? > [10:12] <Smeghead> Sounds like a case of "they suck over there" and "I > know all about them, I've never worked in the industry or actually been a > part of any of it but I know what I'm talking about". > [10:13] <Smeghead> Those crazy brown people and their silly ways. They > are inferior to us. > [10:13] <adama> man, this is exactly the kind of shit that made us go > commercial in the first place > [10:14] <adama> dude > [10:14] <adama> just fuck off > [10:14] <adama> you're getting really tiring now > [10:14] <Smeghead> It takes 10x more effort to deliver internet to remote > people.. not to mention flexibility and creativity. > [10:14] <Smeghead> Than some pompous pricks sitting in their offices > *[10:15] <adama> so what was that, remove any existing wireless support > and hope everyone else fucks off too?* > [10:16] <adama> ok then! > *[10:16] <Smeghead> Hahh what wireless support?* > [10:16] * ChanServ sets mode: +o adama > [10:16] * You were kicked by adama (Smeghead) > Session Close: Tue Mar 31 10:16:22 2015 >
