I don't usually have time for a**holes. I deal with myself waaaay too much.
I was going to just commit code to support MTik or UBNT or Canopy but
then I read this:
Code Contributions
By contributing code you are making a donation and forfeit all
copyright to the project leader, Adam Armstrong. We will not commit
personal copyrights into our codebase.
Observium is currently licensed under a modified QPL-1.0 license. We
reserve the right to change the license for all or part of the code
at any time.
Let's just start using this: https://github.com/librenms/librenms They
seem pleasant enough.
We intend LibreNMS to be a viable project and community that:
encourages contribution,
focuses on the needs of its users, and
offers a welcoming, friendly environment for everyone.
ryan
On 3/31/15 11:16 AM, Josh Baird wrote:
This pretty much is my experience with him as well, and it wasn't even
related to wireless.
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Lists <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
This was on the channel #observium in open public chat (not
private). Its pruned to take out some joins/parts useless info
etc. I simply asked about support for Cambium and now we know
exactly what he thinks of "wifi people". This guy is a true
professional. Funny they think Mikrotik is "ghetto". Sure he
makes some valid points about the lack of unity in our MIBS. I
liked his product for our infrastructure, switches, routers etc.
But I think I can get by without his product from now on. This is
the luxury of having many independent monitoring systems. It
lacks any real alerting system or agents for servers anyway. I
literally started off with that sentence. He added some cambium
support a few months ago so I wanted to know if more was coming.
[09:34] <Smeghead> any chance of adding more cambium stuff soon? :)
[09:34] *<adama> are they another bunch of fucktards who make a
new set of mibs for every product?*
[09:35] *<adama> everyone involved in wireless seems to be
literally retarded when it comes to writing mibs*
[09:37] *<adama> yup, they are*
[09:38] <Smeghead> Yeah so I guess we shouldn't support it then
and all the millions of units out there.
[09:38] <adama> different set of mibs for every fuckign product
[09:38] <adama> jesus
[09:38] <Smeghead> They unified one of their mibs with the regular
AP's
[09:38] <adama> can you english?
[09:39] <Smeghead> The interface stuff is the same for all of them
[09:39] <Smeghead> its your standard interface mibs. Other than
that really there is MAYBE 10 unique things per different product
*[09:40] <adama> fucking wifi people*
[09:40] <adama> you guys have 12903819023810 products from 129381
vendors
[09:40] <Smeghead> If you want to be thorough with them you could
pull all sorts of stuff out.
*[09:40] <adama> and you're always whining that we should support
the stuff you want*
*[09:40] <adama> well fuck you all*
[09:40] <Smeghead> *Yeah thats my fault as a consumer of those
products.*
[09:41] <Smeghead> All I want to do is monitor the best.. Cambium
is the biggest and most widely used next to Ubiquiti.. so I'd
stick to supporting those 2 fully
[09:41] <adama> meh
*[09:41] <adama> get them to send us hardware*
*[09:41] <adama> and maybe we'll give a shit*
*[09:43] <Smeghead> I'll see if we can send you cambium for sure.
I could even arrange you a login or set you up a vm on the network
so you can probe some equipment we have plugged in in a separate
environment for you. *
*[09:43] <Smeghead> I'm pretty sure I offered a few times. *
[09:49] <Smeghead> to be honest though - I don't think observium
is really hugely needed for AP's and subcribers. Maybe starting
with just the wireless bridges first would be the best start.
That isn't so overwhelming
[09:57] <adama> you might as well go and hassle jaguar engineers
about how they really should build a pickup truck
[09:57] *<adama> i'm a telco/isp network person, i don't give 2
shits about wireless*
*[09:57] <Smeghead> Who do you think delivers internet to the
massive areas between the major cities?*
*[09:58] <adama> i dunno, are we talking about retarded countries
or not?*
[09:58] <Smeghead> Yeah all of the Western hemisphere..
[09:59] <adama> lol
[09:59] <adama> XD
*[10:01] <adama> my patience for people asking for wireless stuff
ran out long ago*
[10:01] <Smeghead> Well if you want more excuses to neglect a high
percentage of industry in the world that delivers internet..
yeah take this one. Its probably too hard and too much work for
you. Because the wireless industry is retarded.
[10:01] <adama> i know it is
[10:02] <Smeghead> Yet I can make some cacti graphs in a few mins
for anything. Cacti is old and busted. Your product is new and
refreshing. That is why the industry is bugging you.
[10:04] <adama> go and make some cacti graphs then
[10:04] <adama> i'm really fucking sick of this shit
[10:04] <adama> it doesn't take 5 minutes to add support for things
[10:04] <adama> especially no nfucking wireless stuff
[10:04] <adama> so just fuck off
[10:04] <adama> it's not going to happen
[10:04] <adama> and every one who asks makes it less likely to happen
[*10:06] <Smeghead> But I'll bet if you asked for help you'd get
it. Look I was willing to set you up a network with all the
devices you need*
[10:06] <adama> excuse me whilst i replace these 32*10G bundles
with some wireless
[10:06] <adama> HURR
[10:06] <adama> no
*[10:06] <adama> i'd get a pile of useless shitty code*
*[10:06] <adama> that's the only thing we've ever gotten from the
"community"*
[10:09] <aden> *adama: make Observium -3rd world edition, that
only supports mikrotik and ghetto wireless hardware*
[10:09] <adama> hah
[10:10] <Smeghead> Mainly because its (Mikrotik) like 10% of the
price and does the same job and even better in many cases.
[10:11] <adama> no, they use it because it "just about works" and
costs 10% of the price
[10:11] <Smeghead> Dragonwave aint ghetto nor some of these other
backhaul manufacturers.
[10:12] <Smeghead> and your proof is from what experience?
[10:12] <Smeghead> Sounds like a case of "they suck over there"
and "I know all about them, I've never worked in the industry or
actually been a part of any of it but I know what I'm talking about".
[10:13] <Smeghead> Those crazy brown people and their silly ways.
They are inferior to us.
[10:13] <adama> man, this is exactly the kind of shit that made us
go commercial in the first place
[10:14] <adama> dude
[10:14] <adama> just fuck off
[10:14] <adama> you're getting really tiring now
[10:14] <Smeghead> It takes 10x more effort to deliver internet to
remote people.. not to mention flexibility and creativity.
[10:14] <Smeghead> Than some pompous pricks sitting in their offices
*[10:15] <adama> so what was that, remove any existing wireless
support and hope everyone else fucks off too?*
[10:16] <adama> ok then!
*[10:16] <Smeghead> Hahh what wireless support?*
[10:16] * ChanServ sets mode: +o adama
[10:16] * You were kicked by adama (Smeghead)
Session Close: Tue Mar 31 10:16:22 2015
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