6db??? Omg!!!  Use the 400!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Apr 7, 2015 2:18 PM, "Mathew Howard" <[email protected]> wrote:

> It looks like there'd be about 6db of loss on 20' of LMR195 vs. 2.2db on
> LMR400... that's actually not as bad as I thought. Personally, I'd go with
> at least LMR240 for that long of a run.
>
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> For the AN50s I always did LMR400 because that's what was there.  It was
>> never more than 3 meters (9 feet).
>>
>> For every other radio it's generally what's included.  The biggest I can
>> think of is the brand we can't say here - might be heavy duty LMR195,
>> though.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Glen Waldrop <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  I might do that.
>>>
>>> Is that what you use for less than 20ft?
>>>
>>> LMR400 has less loss, but I think at that length all the loss is going
>>> to be the connectors anyway.
>>>
>>> 400 is a bit stiff.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> *From:* Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 07, 2015 12:58 PM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Quick antenna question
>>>
>>> For <20 feet you could just use 195, I don't think you get any much
>>> difference at 5 GHz.
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Glen Waldrop <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  We seal ours as well.
>>>>
>>>> I recrimped most of the premade cables I purchased after I got a batch
>>>> where the ends just came off. Assemble the equipment on the ground for
>>>> testing, go to line the antenna up for a test shot, notice no signal, the
>>>> coax is laying on the ground.
>>>>
>>>> I didn't take the end off, just hit it again with the crimpers from
>>>> each direction.
>>>>
>>>> That has made me a bit gun shy about LMR400, especially after it
>>>> happened on a tower.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> *From:* Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 07, 2015 12:49 PM
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Quick antenna question
>>>>
>>>> Nearly all of my coax is preterminated.  It's all a) Streakwave or b)
>>>> included with the antenna.  I can't recall if we've ever had a problem with
>>>> any of it, but we always use coax seal.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Glen Waldrop <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  15dBi omni and ~15 to 20ft LMR400.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lightning blew the door off the power box on the ground, fried the
>>>>> mini PCI cards, but the RB600 still worked, just no data across the
>>>>> ethernet port.
>>>>>
>>>>> The unit was hit in 09, was replaced and the antenna and coax have
>>>>> been in service the whole time. I never replaced it as I thought the hinky
>>>>> rx signal was just misreported, a 24Mbps link @ -88 shouldn't happen. Rx
>>>>> signal quality has finally gone down to match the actual numbers now, so I
>>>>> think something in the antenna was damaged.
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem I have here is quality cables. I've gone through around 50
>>>>> that were replaced by Streakwave. They had a bad batch. Made me quite shy
>>>>> to replace what appears to be a good cable with one that might just quit
>>>>> like some others have.
>>>>>
>>>>> I made this one in late 08.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza <[email protected]>
>>>>> *To:* Animal Farm <[email protected]>
>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 07, 2015 12:12 PM
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Quick antenna question
>>>>>
>>>>> more info ...what kind of antenna?  how much RF cable and what kind is
>>>>> it?  what do connectors look like ?
>>>>>
>>>>>  Jaime Solorza
>>>>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>>>> 915-861-1390
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Glen Waldrop <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  I had a tower hit by lightning. The antenna appeared to survive, so
>>>>>> I replaced electronics and let it go.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The system reports low rx signal, 20dB worse than expected, but got
>>>>>> the speeds I expected, so originally I thought the signal was just being
>>>>>> misreported by the new equipment. It has degraded now, so we're working 
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> it this afternoon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm replacing the antenna, but what are the odds that the coax is
>>>>>> damaged as well?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've got spare, probably going to send it up with the climber anyway.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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