They have not been released yet. Expect to here more in late July / Early August.
On May 8, 2015 8:18:22 AM AKDT, Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote: >Who's using these? > >What's inside the "Simper"? > >bp ><part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > >On 5/7/2015 8:42 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >> I could almost convince myself these make sense: >> >http://simper.rfelements.com/assets/Uploads/UltraDish-TP-Datasheet.pdf >> >http://simper.rfelements.com/assets/Uploads/Simper-Radio-Adaptors-Datasheet.pdf >> The ultimate connectorized antenna. >> *From:* Mathew Howard <mailto:[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Thursday, May 07, 2015 10:33 PM >> *To:* af <mailto:[email protected]> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Nanobridge M5 >> I just don't like putting anything without connectorized antennas on >> towers anymore... it makes things much easier to upgrade later on if >> you can leave the dish alone and just swap radios, and force 110's >are >> cheap. >> >> We still use plenty of NanoBeams and NanoBridges for customers. >> >> NanoBeam M5's do work very well for PtP links, as long as you can use > >> 5.8ghz, but NanoBridges often don't seem to perform as well as they >> should. >> On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 9:49 PM, Glen Waldrop <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> I'm interested in hearing it. I'm upgrading my network, using the >> NBM5 for a lot of tower to tower shots. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Mathew Howard <mailto:[email protected]> >> *To:* af <mailto:[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Thursday, May 07, 2015 9:38 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Nanobridge M5 >> It will also change a bit depending on what channel width >> you're using... 10mhz will gain you a few db over 20mhz, etc. >> >> I'll generally go to a larger antenna on anything over 5-6 >> miles these days... actually I won't use NanoBridges for PtP >> links at all anymore, but that's another story. >> On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 9:33 PM, Glen Waldrop >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >wrote: >> >> I'm thinking they may do the same with the tx power as >well. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* [email protected] ><mailto:[email protected]> >> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Thursday, May 07, 2015 9:29 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Nanobridge M5 >> You did account for the fact that Ubnt antenna gain >> specs usually add an extra 2-3db "in taxes" right?. >> >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From: *"Glen Waldrop" <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> *Sender: *"Af" <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> *Date: *Fri, 8 May 2015 01:59:02 +0000 >> *To: *<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> *ReplyTo: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Nanobridge M5 >> Thanks. >> >> Accounting for 3dB "gain" added for MIMO and 18dBm tx >> power at full modulation makes the math work out for >> what I'm actually seeing. >> Problem is I'm still only at MCS 12, which should be >> 22dBm tx. >> I think they add 3dB to every number on their >> datasheets accounting for MIMO, which doesn't work >out >> quite as nicely when doing the math. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Mike Hammett <mailto:[email protected]> >> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Thursday, May 07, 2015 8:52 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Nanobridge M5 >> Make sure you account for Tx power at full >> modulation vs. lowest modulation. Always >calculate >> based on full modulation. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> ><https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> >> Midwest Internet Exchange >> http://www.midwest-ix.com >> >> ><https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From: *"Glen Waldrop" <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> *To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> *Sent: *Thursday, May 7, 2015 8:51:49 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Nanobridge M5 >> >> >> I thought so as well. Could be he's talking about >> the gain being +3dB on the data sheets assuming >> for the gain due to MIMO. >> At 12 miles I get a -71. The math shows -61. >> >> Most of my NBM5 links are similar. I get much >> better signal with my old 802.11a + PacWireless >> grids, usually right on the math. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* John Woodfield >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Thursday, May 07, 2015 8:39 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Nanobridge M5 >> >> I thought you gained 2db because of MIMO? >> >> John Woodfield, President >> >> Delmarva WiFi Inc. >> >> 410-870-WiFi >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "Josh Luthman" >> <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2015 9:35pm >> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nanobridge M5 >> >> Well you're losing 3db because of MIMO. At >> least 1db from what the antennas say. What's >> the signal now? >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340> >> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343> >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> On May 7, 2015 9:32 PM, "Glen Waldrop" >> <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> I've got a few links out there with the >> NBM5, longest is around 12 miles. >> >> According to the math I should get a >> decent shot at 24 miles, but according to >> that same math the NBM5 should have >higher >> signal in every single link I've done. >> >> My question here is what is the longest >> link you've done with the NBM5 25 and >what >> is the actual gain on these units since >> they don't seem to actually gain 25 as >> they're suppose to. >> >> I'm not opposed to using a Rocket and >> larger dish, just trying to see what the >> actual limits to the device are and what >> the actual gain is for math. >> >> Currently I've got the 24 mile shot with >a >> 29 and 26dBi grids, decent, but still >> using 2008 MT hardware. I need more speed >> for growth. >> -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
