Buy 110PTPs, use radios as APs in lower density situations? 



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From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2015 3:59:24 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450 and ePMP with Packet Flux Gear 


Yes both sides have a puck. It's the AP hardware. With 2.4.2 it can have 10 
subs. 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 
On May 9, 2015 4:50 PM, "Jon Langeler" < [email protected] > wrote: 




Ok one last question. Does Force110 PTP have GPS built into it? One end or both 
ends? I should probably get a kit... 


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On May 9, 2015, at 3:28 PM, Josh Luthman < [email protected] > wrote: 


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No 






Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Jon Langeler < [email protected] > 
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Does non-GPS ePMP receive sync over power? 


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On May 9, 2015, at 3:16 PM, Bill Prince < [email protected] > wrote: 


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Kidding right? I think all of our APs are sync over power excepting PTP450, 
which only does timing port sync. We've just found sync over power to be most 
reliable. 

bp
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On 5/9/2015 10:43 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: 

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Why even mess with Poe sync?� 

Gino A. Villarini 
@gvillarini 








On May 9, 2015, at 1:30 PM, Darren Shea < [email protected] > wrote: 


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Forrest, 
��� Cambium has admitted there is a problem with GPS sync over power 
dropping for no reason on the ePMP APs with some software versions, and it is a 
cross-platform problem. It doesn�t seem to be any worse on our PacketFlux 
gear than it is on the LMG CTM-2M � and we only see this on ePMP, never with 
PMP 100, 320, 430, or 450. Luckily, we did deploy the puck antennas on all of 
those AP�s, and they seem to work just fine with the built-in sync. Cambium 
is expecting to fix it in a future software release. 
� 
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From: Af [ mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List 
Account) 
Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 4:49 PM 
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450 and ePMP with Packet Flux Gear 
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I'll let others speak to the stability (as a couple already have). 

A few months ago there was an issue with a mutual customer of mine and 
cambium's which was having sync problems with an epmp radio.�� To date, I 
don't know if the problem was with the epmp, or with the injector, or with a 
gps lock, or whatever.������ I can't say that sync is a perfect 
thing - from time to time, gps modules act weird, injectors don't inject, and 
AP's don't work right - no matter which product you have.� When sync does bad 
things, it behaves badly.� For all I know, in this case my product *might* 
have been at fault.� Or not.� It's not important for the rest of the 
story.... 

In any case, somehow this problem morphed into a statement that somehow the 
SyncInjectors had some sort of systemic issue which lots of wisps were 
experiencing.�� I was not particularly amused by this, particularly since I 
had no communication from cambium at all in relation to this.... After some 
back and forth with my internal contact at cambium I was informed that a) that 
they were tracking some *potential* issue with external sync (usually with a 
syncinjector) on the ePMP and b) that they hadn't had the time to figure out if 
it was packetflux-specific or a general issue yet, and that if they determined 
it was related to my product they'd contact me back.� So far, no call back, 
and I haven't heard any more similar complaints - and I've had interactions 
with a lot of people who use this regularly with ePMP with no known issues.� 
I also haven't seen anything sync-related in the release notes since that time. 

-forrest 

� 

� 



On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 6:45 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc < 
[email protected] > wrote: 


General question here.� I saw something in the Cambium forum questioning the 
reliability of Packet flux Sync Injectors. 
� 
If you use them, are your GPS syncs stable and is power output reliable on the 
450 and ePMP gear? 


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