Along those lines is what I was wondering...

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> On May 9, 2015, at 5:03 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Buy 110PTPs, use radios as APs in lower density situations?
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> From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2015 3:59:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450 and ePMP with Packet Flux Gear
> 
> Yes both sides have a puck.  It's the AP hardware.  With 2.4.2 it can have 10 
> subs.
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>> On May 9, 2015 4:50 PM, "Jon Langeler" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Ok one last question. Does Force110 PTP have GPS built into it? One end or 
>> both ends? I should probably get a kit...
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On May 9, 2015, at 3:28 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> No
>> 
>> 
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
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>>> On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Jon Langeler <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> Does non-GPS ePMP receive sync over power?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On May 9, 2015, at 3:16 PM, Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Kidding right? I think all of our APs are sync over power excepting PTP450, 
>>> which only does timing port sync. We've just found sync over power to be 
>>> most reliable.
>>> 
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>> 
>>> On 5/9/2015 10:43 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
>>> Why even mess with Poe sync?�
>>> 
>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>> @gvillarini
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 9, 2015, at 1:30 PM, Darren Shea <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Forrest,
>>> 
>>> ��� Cambium has admitted there is a problem with GPS sync over power 
>>> dropping for no reason on the ePMP APs with some software versions, and it 
>>> is a cross-platform problem. It doesn�t seem to be any worse on our 
>>> PacketFlux gear than it is on the LMG CTM-2M � and we only see this on 
>>> ePMP, never with PMP 100, 320, 430, or 450. Luckily, we did deploy the puck 
>>> antennas on all of those AP�s, and they seem to work just fine with the 
>>> built-in sync. Cambium is expecting to fix it in a future software release.
>>> 
>>> �
>>> 
>>> �
>>> 
>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List 
>>> Account)
>>> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 4:49 PM
>>> To: af
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450 and ePMP with Packet Flux Gear
>>> 
>>> �
>>> 
>>> I'll let others speak to the stability (as a couple already have).
>>> 
>>> A few months ago there was an issue with a mutual customer of mine and 
>>> cambium's which was having sync problems with an epmp radio.�� To date, 
>>> I don't know if the problem was with the epmp, or with the injector, or 
>>> with a gps lock, or whatever.������ I can't say that sync is a 
>>> perfect thing - from time to time, gps modules act weird, injectors don't 
>>> inject, and AP's don't work right - no matter which product you have.� 
>>> When sync does bad things, it behaves badly.� For all I know, in this 
>>> case my product *might* have been at fault.� Or not.� It's not 
>>> important for the rest of the story....
>>> 
>>> In any case, somehow this problem morphed into a statement that somehow the 
>>> SyncInjectors had some sort of systemic issue which lots of wisps were 
>>> experiencing.�� I was not particularly amused by this, particularly 
>>> since I had no communication from cambium at all in relation to this.... 
>>> After some back and forth with my internal contact at cambium I was 
>>> informed that a) that they were tracking some *potential* issue with 
>>> external sync (usually with a syncinjector) on the ePMP and b) that they 
>>> hadn't had the time to figure out if it was packetflux-specific or a 
>>> general issue yet, and that if they determined it was related to my product 
>>> they'd contact me back.� So far, no call back, and I haven't heard any 
>>> more similar complaints - and I've had interactions with a lot of people 
>>> who use this regularly with ePMP with no known issues.� I also haven't 
>>> seen anything sync-related in the release notes since that time.
>>> 
>>> -forrest
>>> 
>>> �
>>> 
>>> �
>>> 
>>> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 6:45 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> General question here.� I saw something in the Cambium forum questioning 
>>> the reliability of Packet flux Sync Injectors.
>>> 
>>> �
>>> 
>>> If you use them, are your GPS syncs stable and is power output reliable on 
>>> the 450 and ePMP gear?
>>> 
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