I'm always amazed that people actually expect stuff like that to be covered
under warranty.

On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 6:42 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:

> Nor would I for well, most anything. Well, unless specifically claimed
> against it.
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> *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]>
> *To: *[email protected]
> *Sent: *Sunday, May 10, 2015 6:39:11 PM
>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] APC-DIN Mount
>
>  I would not expect you to cover water damage under warranty.
>
>  *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account) <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 10, 2015 6:23 PM
> *To:* af <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] APC-DIN Mount
>
>
> I'm about ready to specifically exclude water damage from what we will
> honor a warranty on.   Lightning I want to see because it is useful to see
> the failure mode so I can improve lightning resistance in successive
> versions.
>
> Not much I can do design wise to prevent water related corrosion.  It's
> pretty obvious when water causes the damage.  My favorite one was the
> syncinjector which came back with water rings on the inside and outside of
> the case where you could see that the bottom of the unit has been
> underwater several times.  Obviously had been in the bottom of a enclosure
> which filled with water numerous times.
>
> My recommendation is going to be to cut a hole in the bottom of the drip
> loop to permit the water to drain out.  Several customers I've talked to
> are doing that with great success.
> On May 10, 2015 8:22 AM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>   Maybe strip back the cable a bunch so the water has a chance to
>> escape.  Or make a ring cut on the jacket where the cable is at a low point.
>>
>>  *From:* Mike Hammett <[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, May 10, 2015 8:20 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] APC-DIN Mount
>>
>>  A drip loop doesn't help when the water is on the inside. You've got
>> however high up it is to the nick in the cable's worth of head pressure.
>> Could have been poor installation, could be birds, squirrels, etc. If you
>> get water in, it'll come out the end.
>>
>> I've met up to three squirrels on the way up the grain leg. That's always
>> a pleasant feeling when you're ascending and you find a little brown fluffy
>> critter....  and then another...  and then another.
>>
>>
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>> *From: *"Chuck McCown" <[email protected]>
>> *To: *[email protected]
>> *Sent: *Sunday, May 10, 2015 9:14:54 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] APC-DIN Mount
>>
>>  We just buy APC PRM4s and put a nice metal din rail mount on the back.
>> It is screwed on.  You could un screw it and mount it elsewhere.
>>
>> I presume you have good drip loops that keep water from following the
>> cables to the surge suppressors.
>>
>>  *From:* Mike Hammett <[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, May 10, 2015 7:45 AM
>> *To:* Animal Farm <[email protected]>
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] APC-DIN Mount
>>
>>  It's hard to tell from the picture. Must the chassis be mounted to the
>> DIN rail via the back of the chassis or can the mount be relocated to the
>> top\bottom? I assume it can't be moved, but I'd like to mount it so that
>> the ports of the surge suppressors are pointing down. Should any water
>> enter the cable, gravity would take it back out of the connector, down the
>> side of the cable instead out the back of the connector, down onto the next
>> surge suppressor below it. I could just put a DIN rail at the top of the
>> box, but just wondering if I could just use the same rail I'm using for
>> everything else.
>>
>> No, it's not green cable and there shouldn't be any wear points, so I'm
>> not really sure how it's getting in.
>>
>>
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