Actually, I wonder which really is more likely, an aircraft accident due to no 
tower lights or the FAA catching you.  If it is at a site with other towers, 
they probably have functioning lights so it is probably more likely that the 
FAA would catch you.

But if it is an isolated site, more likely to snag an airplane or helicopter I 
would think.

This whole landscape changed about 30 years ago when a medical helicopter hit a 
tower that had just been erected but the lights had not yet been commissioned.  

From: Chuck McCown 
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 2:24 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower lighting

“more likely” was intended

From: Chuck McCown 
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 2:22 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower lighting

No tower needs lights until an aircraft flies into it....  (or you get gigged 
by the FAA, probably less likely)

From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) 
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 2:16 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower lighting

If the tower is painted, then it probably never had a white day/night beacon, 
probably only red lights at night and my guess is only the top flashed since 
it's only 300'.


On 5/12/2015 1:14 PM, joseph marsh wrote:

  This tower was built in 2000 

  Why would a tower company or radio station remove the beacon controller ?

  I just got in the building and checked the tower base didn't make it around 
the property due to the tall grass  waist high 

  On May 12, 2015 1:04 PM, "Lewis Bergman" <[email protected]> wrote:

    I just got a price on those while at IWCE and it was more more Than an 
entire new LED light kit. Would save on labor though.

    On May 12, 2015 7:53 AM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:

      You can get nice LEDs that screw into an edison base.  
      I presume there are existing fixtures.  

      From: Lewis Bergman 
      Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 11:49 AM
      To: [email protected] 
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower lighting

      300 is one beacon and two side lights. Dual LED would run probably $8500 
to $11000 cost, no labor.

      On May 12, 2015 7:42 AM, "joseph marsh" <[email protected]> wrote:

        300

        On May 12, 2015 12:40 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:

          How tall is it?  199’ and below no lights required.  

          From: joseph marsh 
          Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 11:39 AM
          To: [email protected] 
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower lighting


          a young guy owns it and his sister I'm trying to keep him out of 
trouble 

          On May 12, 2015 12:33 PM, "Lewis Bergman" <[email protected]> 
wrote:

            There are several. TWR lighting is good. ITS light is also good. I 
would suggest Dual RED/WHITE LED to avoid painting. We had a simile situation 
and we were able to get an easement for $2000 one time payment. Took a lot of 
work to get it going. If you got a lease and don't own the tower the FCC has a 
ruling that leasee's are not liable for tower requirements.

            On May 12, 2015 6:37 AM, "joseph marsh" <[email protected]> 
wrote:

              I have found a abandoned tower and getting a lease this tower 
needs new lighting  

              Where do I go about buying lights  never done this before 


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