At least then it'd work. ;-)
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> To: [email protected], Chuck Hogg <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, 21 May 2015 16:28:25 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: [AFMUG] vivint "Throw money at it until it works!@" On May 21, 2015 1:13:57 PM AKDT, Chuck Hogg <[email protected]> wrote: >I don't know about that...they are heavily invested in technology, >Quantenna for example, just like Mimosa is. > >Regards, >Chuck > >On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 4:49 PM, Colin Stanners <[email protected]> >wrote: > >> I'm geographically far from Vivint but just the things I've been >reading >> make it seem like a "too much money not enough engineering" business. >But >> they're making so much money in other areas that they don't need to >care. >> On May 21, 2015 2:08 PM, "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]> >wrote: >> >>> Vivint is kind of the worst of every idea. They spend a boatload >on >>> licensed spectrum, an excessive amount on backhaul radios and >co-location >>> costs, all of which requires a high-density of users. Then they >deploy a >>> non-TDMA mesh protocol so that when the density starts to increase, >they >>> cause their own interference. The 5GHz technology they are >deploying can’t >>> support the density they need to make this profitable. Then when >>> connections don’t work, they deploy hacked together flat-panels to >make the >>> connection which then causes problems for other users because the >>> flat-panel is too directional. I’m really not sure who is designing >this >>> but it reminds me of the EarthLink mesh deployments. What I can’t >figure >>> out is how that design gets past a technical and financial review. >This is >>> a multi-billion dollar, international company. Somebody should have >>> figured out that there weren’t going to get 50Mbps through a mesh >system >>> consistently with vegetation and that the costs weren’t going to be >in line >>> with the revenue/density. >>> >>> >>> >>> Rory >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Joe Falaschi >>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 21, 2015 11:51 AM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] vivint >>> >>> >>> >>> I heard they were using this in 28GHz for BH to their micro sites: >>> >>> >>> >>> http://cbnl.com/vectastar-gigabit-highlights >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Joe Falaschi >>> >>> e-vergent >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On May 21, 2015, at 1:29 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> I think they are sometimes 5Ghz and sometimes something else on >the >>> houses. >>> >>> The backhauls appear to be the unlicensed SAF 20+GHZ stuff to nearby >>> drops. >>> >>> >>> >>> Most of those in Saratoga Springs are connected to CentraCom Fiber >at the >>> schools etc. >>> >>> >>> >>> And they are doing 50Mbps for $50 or $60 depending on who you talk >to. >>> >>> >>> >>> So maybe they outperform DirectCom now, but when you guys get more >fiber >>> and for a better price they will switch. >>> >>> >>> >>> We took over quite a few in some neighborhoods already. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On >>> Behalf Of *Chuck McCown >>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 21, 2015 12:20 PM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] vivint >>> >>> >>> >>> Anyone know if the APs are 5.8 GHz? I saw one going in today. Fed >with >>> a backhaul with a 2 foot dish. Couldn’t get close enough to see if >it was >>> licensed or not. The AP antennas look like little whips. At roof >top. In >>> a very heavy tree’d neighborhood. With trees taller than the >houses. With >>> a bunch of other WISPs in the area... And I just rolled fiber down >that >>> street. >>> >>> >>> >>> Wonder who will win in the end? >>> >>> >>> >> -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
