They are building a hub on my Mother-in-law's house. I plan to check it out more closely next time I'm down there.
On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 7:27 AM, Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> wrote: > I am in... > > Jaime Solorza > On May 22, 2015 6:57 AM, "Lewis Bergman" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> if someone wants to pay somebody lots of money to fail I am always >> available. While I have succeeded at a few things, I have plenty of >> failures I can put on my resume. >> >> On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 10:24 PM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> They are spending all that money for 10MHz? Maybe they should merge >>> with Vivint. >>> >>> >>> >>> Rory >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof >>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 21, 2015 3:59 PM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] vivint >>> >>> >>> >>> That’s OK, supposedly LightSquared has lined up Ivan Seidenberg as their >>> new chairman ex-bankruptcy, as well as $1.25 billion in financing. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/verizons-former-ceo-and-former-fcc-chairman-push-lightsquareds-case-directl/2015-05-20 >>> >>> >>> >>> I suppose by chairman they mean chairman of the board, not CEO? I >>> thought Seidenberg was smarter than your average Baby Bell CEO, but what’s >>> he doing with this zombie that refuses to stay dead? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Sterling Jacobson <[email protected]> >>> >>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 21, 2015 5:34 PM >>> >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] vivint >>> >>> >>> >>> Who was that? >>> >>> >>> >>> I think Brett and Dean went over? Did Dean leave? >>> >>> >>> >>> They tried to head hunt me for that position in 2013, but I was under >>> non-compete with the sale of Rapidwave. >>> >>> >>> >>> Instead they got Roger Timmerman. >>> >>> >>> >>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/rogertimmerman >>> >>> >>> >>> It’s a joke, right? >>> >>> >>> >>> They got the guy who worked on the failed iProvo Fiber project, that >>> then went to become CTO of the (arguably) failed Utopia Utah fiber project >>> and put him in charge of a (arguably) failure of a wireless system. >>> >>> >>> >>> Makes me laugh. >>> >>> >>> >>> But I hear he’s making $$$$ at Vivint, so I guess who’s the one laughing? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On >>> Behalf Of *Brett A Mansfield >>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 21, 2015 1:33 PM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] vivint >>> >>> >>> >>> Haha, funny you mention that! Their recently former COO is now one of my >>> customers. He was the Chief Ops Officer specifically for Vivint Wireless. >>> >>> Thank you, >>> >>> Brett A Mansfield >>> >>> >>> On May 21, 2015, at 1:26 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> 5 GHz with FSK doesn’t even penetrate walls and vegetation. Be >>> interesting to see what happens to their chief technology officer when the >>> truth begins to filter up to the C level. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Rory Conaway <[email protected]> >>> >>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 21, 2015 1:23 PM >>> >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] vivint >>> >>> >>> >>> Vivint is also relaying through their internal/half-duplex routers to >>> avoid putting antennas on the roof. That was their original idea. They >>> are finding out that most people need outdoor installations. For some >>> reason, 5GHz with 256QAM doesn’t penetrated outside walls and vegetation. >>> That’s a handy piece of information to have when you are planning to spend >>> tens of millions of dollars. >>> >>> >>> >>> Rory >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On >>> Behalf Of *Brett A Mansfield >>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 21, 2015 12:20 PM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] vivint >>> >>> >>> >>> I have several customers on 3.65 links, so vivint doesn't interfere with >>> their signal. But I had one of these customers call me a week ago and tell >>> me they are having massive buffer issues. When I went to check it out I saw >>> that Vivint had put up a hub home right next door. My customer said it went >>> up two days before and that is when they started having their issue. So >>> Vivint is causing so much interference in the 5GHz area that people's home >>> routers aren't even working. I gave her a 2.4GHz router and she is happy >>> now. >>> >>> >>> >>> So, even if you get the 50Mb to your Vivint device, you won't be able to >>> use it over your wireless network in 5GHz. >>> >>> Thank you, >>> >>> Brett A Mansfield >>> >>> >>> On May 21, 2015, at 1:08 PM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Vivint is kind of the worst of every idea. They spend a boatload on >>> licensed spectrum, an excessive amount on backhaul radios and co-location >>> costs, all of which requires a high-density of users. Then they deploy a >>> non-TDMA mesh protocol so that when the density starts to increase, they >>> cause their own interference. The 5GHz technology they are deploying can’t >>> support the density they need to make this profitable. Then when >>> connections don’t work, they deploy hacked together flat-panels to make the >>> connection which then causes problems for other users because the >>> flat-panel is too directional. I’m really not sure who is designing this >>> but it reminds me of the EarthLink mesh deployments. What I can’t figure >>> out is how that design gets past a technical and financial review. This is >>> a multi-billion dollar, international company. Somebody should have >>> figured out that there weren’t going to get 50Mbps through a mesh system >>> consistently with vegetation and that the costs weren’t going to be in line >>> with the revenue/density. >>> >>> >>> >>> Rory >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On >>> Behalf Of *Joe Falaschi >>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 21, 2015 11:51 AM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] vivint >>> >>> >>> >>> I heard they were using this in 28GHz for BH to their micro sites: >>> >>> >>> >>> http://cbnl.com/vectastar-gigabit-highlights >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Joe Falaschi >>> >>> e-vergent >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On May 21, 2015, at 1:29 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I think they are sometimes 5Ghz and sometimes something else on the >>> houses. >>> >>> The backhauls appear to be the unlicensed SAF 20+GHZ stuff to nearby >>> drops. >>> >>> >>> >>> Most of those in Saratoga Springs are connected to CentraCom Fiber at >>> the schools etc. >>> >>> >>> >>> And they are doing 50Mbps for $50 or $60 depending on who you talk to. >>> >>> >>> >>> So maybe they outperform DirectCom now, but when you guys get more fiber >>> and for a better price they will switch. >>> >>> >>> >>> We took over quite a few in some neighborhoods already. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On >>> Behalf Of *Chuck McCown >>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 21, 2015 12:20 PM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] vivint >>> >>> >>> >>> Anyone know if the APs are 5.8 GHz? I saw one going in today. Fed with >>> a backhaul with a 2 foot dish. Couldn’t get close enough to see if it was >>> licensed or not. The AP antennas look like little whips. At roof top. In >>> a very heavy tree’d neighborhood. With trees taller than the houses. With >>> a bunch of other WISPs in the area... And I just rolled fiber down that >>> street. >>> >>> >>> >>> Wonder who will win in the end? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>
