Agreed.

Regards,
Chuck

On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I don't think slant is any better at obstruction penetration.  It does get
> you some noise rejection from everything else out there.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On May 25, 2015 9:10 AM, "Chuck Hogg" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Part of the problem is that ePMP 2.4GHz is dual slant on the suggested
>> AP's antenna.  It is not dual slant on this antenna.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Chuck
>>
>> On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 5:24 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>   Maybe I can sell my used Trango shield kits after all.  The ones with
>>> the blue RF absorbers on each side that look like seat cushions and the
>>> metal over the back.  Amazingly after 10 years on a tower they look like
>>> new.
>>>
>>> I would think the key to just using metal shields is to make sure they
>>> act as shields and not as parasitic antenna elements or knife edge
>>> refractors.
>>>
>>> That conductive spray that Cambium uses inside their CLIP would probably
>>> work inside an enclosure, I assume it won’t hold up to weather and sun if
>>> applied to the outer surface.  Unless maybe you painted over it.
>>>
>>>
>>>  *From:* Glen Waldrop <[email protected]>
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, May 24, 2015 3:53 PM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP use with
>>> Itelite-sector-xl-2.45dualband-2xdual
>>>
>>>   I have the 2.4GHz sector with the radio enclosure. I was planning on
>>> shielding the back, problem is getting to the enclosure after shielding it.
>>> I haven’t quite come up with a proper work around for that yet.
>>>
>>> I’ll probably just build my shield for it and then keep a few spares on
>>> the ground like I should have anyway.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  *From:* Chuck McCown <[email protected]>
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, May 24, 2015 12:59 PM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP use with
>>> Itelite-sector-xl-2.45dualband-2xdual
>>>
>>>   I would like to try.
>>>
>>>  *From:* Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, May 24, 2015 11:08 AM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP use with
>>> Itelite-sector-xl-2.45dualband-2xdual
>>>
>>>
>>> I have one sitting in the office, not sure when I can send it out.
>>> Would you be able to make a part that fixes the FB?
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> On May 24, 2015 12:17 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>   Well if you are going to throw them off a tower, throw one my way.
>>>> I would like to take it apart and see what the problem is.  Perhaps I can
>>>> suggest a fix.
>>>>
>>>>  *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, May 23, 2015 11:27 PM
>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP use with
>>>> Itelite-sector-xl-2.45dualband-2xdual
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Throw it off the tower and put something else in its place?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Short of building a big metal wall (which may not work, just guessing)
>>>> I'm not sure what you could do.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 11:11 PM, Paul McCall <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Is there a way to further shield the back to make it acceptable ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Chuck Hogg
>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, May 23, 2015 8:24 PM
>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP use with
>>>> Itelite-sector-xl-2.45dualband-2xdual
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We're abandoning the use of these in sites.  2.4 in V/H is the first
>>>> problem.  F/B as JL suggested.  The antenna itself is not at the higher
>>>> level of desirability, but in a pinch where you might need to retain space
>>>> and such it might work out ok.  I wouldn't put it in my WISP anymore 
>>>> though.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   Regards,
>>>> Chuck
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 7:57 PM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It helps to use the version with the built in enclosure... it gets you
>>>> an extra layer of metal on the back that kind of works as shielding.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Glen Waldrop <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have some ITElite 2.4GHz sectors, still on the ground due to the poor
>>>> F/B ratio.
>>>>
>>>> Gain is really good in testing though. I'm going to put something else
>>>> up to shield the back.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
>>>>
>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>
>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, May 23, 2015 4:35 PM
>>>>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP use with
>>>> Itelite-sector-xl-2.45dualband-2xdual
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The F/B ratio is shit.  Complete shit.  Garbage.  Just awful.  I've got
>>>> several sites where the 180* actually has more gain than front facing (ie I
>>>> hear east better than west while being a mile or two west of the tower).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The hardware is a joke, but workable.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Forward 5 GHz gain seems about right.  2 GHz gain may be lacking,
>>>> though I suspect it isn't.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 5:21 PM, Paul McCall <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> We are curious to see how this antenna compares in a 4 sector
>>>> arrangement with the Cambium ePMP APs, GPS synced?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.itelite.net/en/Katalog/Multi-Band-Antennas//SECTOR-XL-245dual-band2xdual-HV.html
>>>> <http://www.itelite.net/en/Katalog/Multi-Band-Antennas/SECTOR-XL-245dual-band2xdual-HV.html>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Has anybody used enough of these to have any real world feedback?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Paul McCall, Pres.
>>>>
>>>> PDMNet / Florida Broadband
>>>>
>>>> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>>>>
>>>> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>>>>
>>>> 772-564-6800 office
>>>>
>>>> 772-473-0352 cell
>>>>
>>>> www.pdmnet.com
>>>>
>>>> [email protected]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>

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