It does have what plants crave...

On Sunday, June 14, 2015, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:

>   Yeah, they really shouldn’t breed.  Luckily they probably can’t figure
> out how.  And they’re too busy watering their crops with Brawndo.
>
>  *From:* Mike Hammett <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 14, 2015 6:08 PM
> *To:* [email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] today's consulting fun
>
>  The people I work with assume if it's gone from one place, it's gone
> from all. They'd be surprised if it was still on another device. IMAP
> folders match webmail folders. Webmail folders are the same on every device
> you use.
>
> Your customers seem dumber than mine and for that, I'm glad.  ;-)
>
>
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> *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>>
> *To: *[email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
> *Sent: *Sunday, June 14, 2015 6:03:27 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] today's consulting fun
>
>  Average Joe does not understand local vs. server based folders.
>
> Problems I see fairly often:
>
> * User deletes messages from phone, then shits a brick when the messages
> are gone from his computer, because he does not understand server based
> folders.
>
> * User has 20 folders on the server including Sent, Deleted, Junk, Cat
> Pictures, etc. plus some specific to his phone that aren’t even email.
> Every email he has ever sent, deleted, or has been filtered as spam is
> still sitting on the server, and he can’t understand why he hits his disk
> quota.  Even when he deletes some, it just moves them to Deleted, which is
> still on the server.
>
> * User complains spam filtering is not preventing the spam from going to
> his phone, because he has his Junk folder synced on his phone.
>
> * Real estate agent has created GMail folders for every house she ever
> listed, buys smartphone, sets it to sync all those folders rather than just
> Inbox (and full messages not just headers).  When it is still syncing after
> 2 days, she decides to delete the GMail account off her phone but instead
> manages to blow away all her GMail.
>
> * The people who use POP3 on their computer and IMAP on their phone,
> accessing the same mail account, and wonder why strange stuff happens or
> the mailbox gets corrupted.
>
> I also think mobile devices using IMAP IDLE cause a lot of server issues
> because of sessions staying up for days or weeks.
>
>
>  *From:* Mike Hammett <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 14, 2015 5:39 PM
> *To:* [email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] today's consulting fun
>
>  How is IMAP harder than POP3?
>
>
>
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> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
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> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>
> Midwest Internet Exchange
> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>>
> *To: *[email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
> *Sent: *Sunday, June 14, 2015 4:30:13 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] today's consulting fun
>
>  A significant portion of the populace is too stupid to use IMAP.  Of
> course they should also not be allowed to drive, vote, own a gun, or
> reproduce, but we don’t stop them.  At least you have to pass a test to get
> a drivers license.
> TAXI - Reverand Jim's Driving Test
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5XJ83PRJOU>
>
>
>  *From:* Chuck McCown <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 14, 2015 4:05 PM
> *To:* [email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] today's consulting fun
>
>   IMHO, POP3 should never leave messages.  You can’t leave a copy of your
> mail at the post office.  If you want to leave messages, that is what  IMAP
> is good for.
>
>  *From:* Ken Hohhof <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 14, 2015 2:59 PM
> *To:* [email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] today's consulting fun
>
>   If Outlook is set up for POP3, make sure the guy periodically stops the
> Send/Rcv process so it can delete messages off the server (assuming you did
> not set it up to leave copies on the server forever).  That way it won’t
> start over with 1 of 54484 if it gets stuck again.
>
> And if it still can’t get past one problematic message, see if Bell South
> has webmail and he can go in and delete the problem message from there.
>
>
>  *From:* Lewis Bergman
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 14, 2015 3:31 PM
> *To:* [email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] today's consulting fun
>
>
> So weather is your point? Sounds like maybe you have never had the pain of
> running your own mail server. We used to get this note and again. Someone
> needs to manually look at the message file and go to the spot if that
> message and manually delete it. Good luck convincing bell south to do it.
> On Jun 14, 2015 2:11 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <[email protected]
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:
>
>>
>> so i was really tempted to post this on facebook but since he's local,
>> maybe not.
>>
>> issue:  my outlook keeps downloading the same message over and over.
>> the message was about three months old once i looked at it.
>>
>> i setup a new profile, clean pst file, started downloading messages.
>>
>> downloading message 1 of 54484 messages (1.79 gig)
>>
>> what?!
>>
>> messages started coming in from january 2014.
>>
>> this is an @bellsouth.net email address.
>>
>> mr. lawyer dude, you and i need to have a little talk....
>>
>>
>>
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