We had the same internal discussion. Customers are stupid. Things can
only go one way with the Canopy PoE. However, we've had a lot less SMs
lost to surges since we switched to the Laird POE-24iR's. Honestly, it
wasn't a hard transition. The techs are able to walk customers through
making sure things are plugged in correctly. /shrug
And FWIW, your "standard POE" argument doesn't work. Canopy was baked
before there was 802.3af. Cisco aironet, too, which originally used the
same pinout as Canopy as well. And Trango. Shit, we were POE hacking
Apple AirPorts and RG1000s in late 2002.
On 6/25/2015 8:04 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
i'm just saying that the financial decision for carrying the old and
new poe goes deeper than how much they may or may not be making on the
poe.
cambium after all is in the business of selling light bulbs (SMs) and
if you need a special socket to use their light bulb it might behoove
them to continue selling the socket AND the light bulb.
unfortunately this all goes back to the very beginning of not using a
standard poe product.
by the way we are not planning to move all new installs to telrad that
statement was for dramatic effect ;-)
-sean
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
<mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
This is sounding like Jack Nicholson trying to get his whole wheat
toast in Five Easy Pieces.
*From:* Sean Heskett <mailto:af...@zirkel.us>
*Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2015 7:32 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/
but if i decide to completely move all new installs to telrad they
would be very sad puppies.
just sayin
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 6:26 PM, <cstann...@gmail.com
<mailto:cstann...@gmail.com>> wrote:
How much do you think they make per Canopy PSU after the
stockkeeping / freight /organizational work? $3 ? I'm sure
losing those sales won't keep them up at night.
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*Sender: *"Af" <af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>>
*Date: *Fri, 26 Jun 2015 00:12:22 +0000
*To: *<af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
*ReplyTo: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/
That will be really funny if CTI sources them and moto looses
out on a bunch of sales, lol
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Colin Stanners
<cstann...@gmail.com <mailto:cstann...@gmail.com>> wrote:
With the speed keys and regional variants they have a
large amount of product stock already, I imagine they're
not trying to keep old items and didn't see a big reason
people would want the old-style PSUs.
I thought CTI had gotten some PSUs straight from the
manufacturer years ago when there was a Motorola shortage,
you could check with them.
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 6:47 PM, Sean Heskett
<af...@zirkel.us <mailto:af...@zirkel.us>> wrote:
Which is great...for you.
Why can't I have a choice? Why are they taking it
away if there is still demand? Why won't they let us
go straight to whatever manufacturer they get them from??
On Thursday, June 25, 2015, Colin Stanners
<cstann...@gmail.com <mailto:cstann...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I'm one of those that prefer the new PoE:
-less outlet space needed
-gigabit option (current 450 SMs can reach 75mbit
down so it's likely next generation will hit 100+)
-can choose whatever cable length is needed to go
to PC/router.
-won't have the broken RJ tab / wires pulling out
of the RJ due to cable weight issues of the
current PoE model
With very big "TO COMPUTER / ROUTER" "TO OUTSIDE
ANTENNA" labels, on both sides of the unit,
customer wiring mistakes will be almost
eliminated. I haven't seen that as a big problem
on the PMP320.
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 2:57 PM, Sean Heskett
<af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
Ray can you please come and hang out with one
of my clients for a day and hand them each POE
and see which one they can hook up and which
one they can't??
Just because you have made this decision
doesn't mean it's a good decision and we are
asking cambium to reconsider. The new POE
sucks! Period!
2cents
On Thursday, June 25, 2015, Ray Savich
<ray.sav...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote:
Check out the details at
http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/Canopy-POE-end-of-life/m-p/41732
Ray
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Behalf Of *Sean Heskett
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*Subject:* Re: [WISPA Members] Canopy POE
end of life :-/
Thanks for the link josh. They normally
cost ~$10 so the eBay price of $24 is
someone trying to make a buck on them
before they are gone. Also eventually eBay
will run out too so that's not a long term
solution.
Come on cambium listen to your long time
loyal customers!
-Sean
On Thursday, June 25, 2015, Josh Luthman
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xcanopy+power+supply.TRS0&_nkw=canopy+power+supply&_sacat=0
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Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
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Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Sean
Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
Dear Cambium,
Why won't you let us buy the ACPSSW-13B
POE if we still want to?
It's very frustrating that we now have to
change our install procedures AND our tech
support procedures. The new POE is also
very cumbersome and prone to clients
plugging things in backwards etc.
Can you either keep selling them or give
us access to the manufacturer so that we
can still buy them?
-Sean
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