The choice between 24 and 48 was likely more a component cost issue. The
higher voltage components on the POE are more expensive than lower voltage /
higher current. The original power supplies for Canopy were linear supplies.
Less of an issue now that the components for switching power supplies have
dropped in price so much that linear supplies are more expensive that switchers.
Mark
> On Jun 26, 2015, at 12:45 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Yeah, higher voltage = lower current = less energy lost as heat
>
> ....though if all your loads are 24v (Canopy, UBNT, Mikrotik) then starting
> with 24 saves you a conversion.
>
>
> On 6/26/2015 12:36 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
>> I would argue the opposite. Higher voltage means lower current which means
>> longer run time (generally).
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>> On 6/25/2015 9:55 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>> Plus DC sites are better in 24 than 48 volts.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Jun 26, 2015 12:49 AM, "Colin Stanners" <cstann...@gmail.com
>>> <mailto:cstann...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> Cambium couldn't use standard poe because when they started development -
>>> around 2000? - such a thing didn't exist, the AF standard came out in 2003.
>>> Also if they had used 48v the POE injectors would cost about 3x as much.
>>>
>>> On Jun 25, 2015 8:04 PM, "Sean Heskett" <af...@zirkel.us
>>> <mailto:af...@zirkel.us>> wrote:
>>> i'm just saying that the financial decision for carrying the old and new
>>> poe goes deeper than how much they may or may not be making on the poe.
>>>
>>> cambium after all is in the business of selling light bulbs (SMs) and if
>>> you need a special socket to use their light bulb it might behoove them to
>>> continue selling the socket AND the light bulb.
>>>
>>> unfortunately this all goes back to the very beginning of not using a
>>> standard poe product.
>>>
>>> by the way we are not planning to move all new installs to telrad that
>>> statement was for dramatic effect ;-)
>>>
>>> -sean
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Ken Hohhof <
>>> <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
>>> This is sounding like Jack Nicholson trying to get his whole wheat toast in
>>> Five Easy Pieces.
>>>
>>> From: Sean Heskett <mailto:af...@zirkel.us>
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 7:32 PM
>>> To: <mailto:af@afmug.com>af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/
>>>
>>> but if i decide to completely move all new installs to telrad they would be
>>> very sad puppies.
>>>
>>> just sayin
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 6:26 PM, <
>>> <mailto:cstann...@gmail.com>cstann...@gmail.com
>>> <mailto:cstann...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> How much do you think they make per Canopy PSU after the stockkeeping /
>>> freight /organizational work? $3 ? I'm sure losing those sales won't keep
>>> them up at night.
>>> From: TJ Trout < <mailto:t...@voltbb.com>t...@voltbb.com
>>> <mailto:t...@voltbb.com>>
>>> Sender: "Af" < <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>af-boun...@afmug.com
>>> <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>>
>>> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 00:12:22 +0000
>>> To: < <mailto:af@afmug.com>af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
>>> ReplyTo: <mailto:af@afmug.com>af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/
>>>
>>> That will be really funny if CTI sources them and moto looses out on a
>>> bunch of sales, lol
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Colin Stanners <
>>> <mailto:cstann...@gmail.com>cstann...@gmail.com
>>> <mailto:cstann...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> With the speed keys and regional variants they have a large amount of
>>> product stock already, I imagine they're not trying to keep old items and
>>> didn't see a big reason people would want the old-style PSUs.
>>>
>>> I thought CTI had gotten some PSUs straight from the manufacturer years ago
>>> when there was a Motorola shortage, you could check with them.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 6:47 PM, Sean Heskett <
>>> <mailto:af...@zirkel.us>af...@zirkel.us <mailto:af...@zirkel.us>> wrote:
>>> Which is great...for you.
>>>
>>> Why can't I have a choice? Why are they taking it away if there is still
>>> demand? Why won't they let us go straight to whatever manufacturer they
>>> get them from??
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, June 25, 2015, Colin Stanners <
>>> <mailto:cstann...@gmail.com>cstann...@gmail.com
>>> <mailto:cstann...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> I'm one of those that prefer the new PoE:
>>>
>>> -less outlet space needed
>>> -gigabit option (current 450 SMs can reach 75mbit down so it's likely next
>>> generation will hit 100+)
>>> -can choose whatever cable length is needed to go to PC/router.
>>> -won't have the broken RJ tab / wires pulling out of the RJ due to cable
>>> weight issues of the current PoE model
>>>
>>> With very big "TO COMPUTER / ROUTER" "TO OUTSIDE ANTENNA" labels, on both
>>> sides of the unit, customer wiring mistakes will be almost eliminated. I
>>> haven't seen that as a big problem on the PMP320.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 2:57 PM, Sean Heskett < <>af...@zirkel.us
>>> <mailto:af...@zirkel.us>> wrote:
>>> Ray can you please come and hang out with one of my clients for a day and
>>> hand them each POE and see which one they can hook up and which one they
>>> can't??
>>>
>>> Just because you have made this decision doesn't mean it's a good decision
>>> and we are asking cambium to reconsider. The new POE sucks! Period!
>>>
>>> 2cents
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, June 25, 2015, Ray Savich < <>ray.sav...@cambiumnetworks.com
>>> <mailto:ray.sav...@cambiumnetworks.com>> wrote:
>>> Check out the details at
>>> <http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/Canopy-POE-end-of-life/m-p/41732>http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/Canopy-POE-end-of-life/m-p/41732
>>>
>>> <http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/Canopy-POE-end-of-life/m-p/41732>
>>> Ray
>>>
>>>
>>> Join the Conversation
>>>
>>> Cambium Networks Community Forum <http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/>
>>>
>>> From: <>members-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org>
>>> [mailto: <>members-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org>] On
>>> Behalf Of Sean Heskett
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 10:38 AM
>>> To: <>af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>>> Cc: <>memb...@wispa.org <mailto:memb...@wispa.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] Canopy POE end of life :-/
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the link josh. They normally cost ~$10 so the eBay price of $24
>>> is someone trying to make a buck on them before they are gone. Also
>>> eventually eBay will run out too so that's not a long term solution.
>>>
>>>
>>> Come on cambium listen to your long time loyal customers!
>>>
>>>
>>> -Sean
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, June 25, 2015, Josh Luthman < <>j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>>> <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> <http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xcanopy+power+supply.TRS0&_nkw=canopy+power+supply&_sacat=0>http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xcanopy+power+supply.TRS0&_nkw=canopy+power+supply&_sacat=0
>>>
>>> <http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xcanopy+power+supply.TRS0&_nkw=canopy+power+supply&_sacat=0>
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Sean Heskett < <>af...@zirkel.us
>>> <mailto:af...@zirkel.us>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Cambium,
>>>
>>>
>>> Why won't you let us buy the ACPSSW-13B POE if we still want to?
>>>
>>>
>>> It's very frustrating that we now have to change our install procedures AND
>>> our tech support procedures. The new POE is also very cumbersome and prone
>>> to clients plugging things in backwards etc.
>>>
>>>
>>> Can you either keep selling them or give us access to the manufacturer so
>>> that we can still buy them?
>>>
>>>
>>> -Sean
>>>
>>>
>>>
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