Depends on how you see cost. How fast you want ROI.
On 07/15/2015 01:59 PM, Brian Sullivan wrote:
That would help our Self-Install customers a lot.
If it ends up to be much more expensive than SM + $60 reflector dish,
it may not be desirable. Cost is a big motivator.
On 7/15/2015 1:44 PM, Matt Mangriotis wrote:
If I were to say that there would be a 12” square flat panel (think
about the PMP 450i integrated SM tilted at a 45 degree) for 3.65 GHz
available, would there be strong interest in this from this crowd?
It would be somewhat more expensive, but would have an integrated 19
dBi flat panel antenna, and the PMP 450i rear housing (but contain
the existing 450 SM PCB).
Matt
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 15, 2015 1:41 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i
We put up a 3.65 connectorized SM with a tan Mars 15x15 panel
oriented like a diamond, on some customer’s upscale house that was
the exact same color. He was very happy. I just hope he doesn’t
tell all his neighbors and they want it too, because it was really
too expensive by the time you add up the premium for 3.65 + the
premium for connectorized SM + a fairly expensive panel antenna.
Also the pigtails just reached, but Cambium is working on that.
So an integrated panel would be nice. Although the 3.65 bare SMs
work amazingly well at 1-2 miles.
*From:*George Skorup <mailto:geo...@cbcast.com>
*Sent:*Wednesday, July 15, 2015 12:46 PM
*To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i
The throughput issues with both bridge mode and especially NAT mode
was resolved with 13.2. I think Aaron posted some screenshots while
they were working on it. If your linktest gets you say 60x20Mbps, you
can get very close to that in bridge mode, NAT mode is slightly less,
but it's not as bad as it used to be (was about 10Mbps!).
We will probably move to the 450d SM for 5GHz and do away with
reflectors and Stingers (sorry Chuck). We are also not doing any more
2.4GHz. We have a single sector up with about 25 SMs on it and it
works fine for the most part, but the noise is horrible. And all I
want for 3GHz is an integrated panel SM.
On 7/15/2015 10:30 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
Yeah they max out way before the AP does...30meg might be
right....but we're not usually selling more than that to one
customer.
There's room in the market for a higher end SM for sure.
On 7/15/2015 11:22 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Higher peak Tx power also brings about higher Tx power at max
modulation. Tx power at lowest modulation doesn't mean much
to me.
Weren't there complains that the 450 SMs were running out of
steam at like 30 megabit?
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*Sent: *Wednesday, July 15, 2015 10:13:04 AM
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I can also see why you wouldn't do it.
450d can max out the (FCC) legal EIRP with the available tx
power. The higher pps, faster processor, etc are features
more useful for an AP. Maybe they keep the cost down a
little by NOT doing more with that one.
Or phrased another way, maybe 450di would be the ideal CPE
except nobody would buy it because the 450d was cheaper.
....just speculation.
On 7/15/2015 10:58 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
*nods* The press release prompted the question.
It seems like a 450di would be the ideal 450 CPE. ;-)
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*To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent: *Wednesday, July 15, 2015 9:55:06 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i
These are two different products, addressing different
markets. Cambium is hard at work getting new products
released at an increased rate, all with the goal of
providing solutions to help you guys build your businesses…
Check out the Press Release and additional information on
the 450i, which was just released this morning:
http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/pressreleases
Feel free to ask questions about it here, or on our forum
site also:
http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/Introducing-Cambium-450i-PMP-and-PTP/m-p/42199#U42199
Matt
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of
*Mike Hammett
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 15, 2015 8:33 AM
*To:* Animal Farm mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i
Am I correct in that these two products were developed
independently of each others' advancements? the 450d is
just a regular 450 feature set in a dish form factor and
the 450i is all of the new capabilities, but in the
traditional form factors?
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