Yes, but I would go with a more traditional case and panel approach. Our 
customer don't really care about industrial design. Price has to make sense. 
Maybe have the Epmp department help with that one..

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> On Jul 15, 2015, at 2:44 PM, Matt Mangriotis 
> <matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote:
> 
> If I were to say that there would be a 12” square flat panel (think about the 
> PMP 450i integrated SM tilted at a 45 degree) for 3.65 GHz available, would 
> there be strong interest in this from this crowd?
>  
> It would be somewhat more expensive, but would have an integrated 19 dBi flat 
> panel antenna, and the PMP 450i rear housing (but contain the existing 450 SM 
> PCB).
>  
> Matt
>  
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 1:41 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i
>  
> We put up a 3.65 connectorized SM with a tan Mars 15x15 panel oriented like a 
> diamond, on some customer’s upscale house that was the exact same color.  He 
> was very happy.  I just hope he doesn’t tell all his neighbors and they want 
> it too, because it was really too expensive by the time you add up the 
> premium for 3.65 + the premium for connectorized SM + a fairly expensive 
> panel antenna.  Also the pigtails just reached, but Cambium is working on 
> that.
>  
> So an integrated panel would be nice.  Although the 3.65 bare SMs work 
> amazingly well at 1-2 miles.
>  
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> From: George Skorup
> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 12:46 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i
>  
> The throughput issues with both bridge mode and especially NAT mode was 
> resolved with 13.2. I think Aaron posted some screenshots while they were 
> working on it. If your linktest gets you say 60x20Mbps, you can get very 
> close to that in bridge mode, NAT mode is slightly less, but it's not as bad 
> as it used to be (was about 10Mbps!).
> 
> We will probably move to the 450d SM for 5GHz and do away with reflectors and 
> Stingers (sorry Chuck). We are also not doing any more 2.4GHz. We have a 
> single sector up with about 25 SMs on it and it works fine for the most part, 
> but the noise is horrible. And all I want for 3GHz is an integrated panel SM.
> 
> On 7/15/2015 10:30 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
> Yeah they max out way before the AP does...30meg might be right....but we're 
> not usually selling more than that to one customer.
> 
> There's room in the market for a higher end SM for sure.
> 
> On 7/15/2015 11:22 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> Higher peak Tx power also brings about higher Tx power at max modulation. Tx 
> power at lowest modulation doesn't mean much to me.
> 
> Weren't there complains that the 450 SMs were running out of steam at like 30 
> megabit?
> 
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> From: "Adam Moffett" mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 10:13:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i
> 
> I can also see why you wouldn't do it.
> 450d can max out the (FCC) legal EIRP with the available tx power.  The 
> higher pps, faster processor, etc are features more useful for an AP.  Maybe 
> they keep the cost down a little by NOT doing more with that one.
> 
> Or phrased another way, maybe 450di would be the ideal CPE except nobody 
> would buy it because the 450d was cheaper.
> 
> ....just speculation.
> 
> 
> On 7/15/2015 10:58 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> *nods* The press release prompted the question.
> 
> It seems like a 450di would be the ideal 450 CPE.  ;-)
> 
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> From: "Matt Mangriotis" mailto:matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 9:55:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i
> 
> These are two different products, addressing different markets.  Cambium is 
> hard at work getting new products released at an increased rate, all with the 
> goal of providing solutions to help you guys build your businesses…
>  
> Check out the Press Release and additional information on the 450i, which was 
> just released this morning:
>  
> http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/pressreleases
>  
> Feel free to ask questions about it here, or on our forum site also:
>  
> http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/Introducing-Cambium-450i-PMP-and-PTP/m-p/42199#U42199
>  
> Matt
>  
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 8:33 AM
> To: Animal Farm mailto:af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i
>  
> Am I correct in that these two products were developed independently of each 
> others' advancements? the 450d is just a regular 450 feature set in a dish 
> form factor and the 450i is all of the new capabilities, but in the 
> traditional form factors?
> 
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