my guess (and this is only a guess) is that they are mostly concerned with ePMP syncing with PMP100 because PMP100 has such low throughput now a days (thanks netflix) that a lot of operators are looking for a cheep way to upgrade their PMP100 installed base. PMP450 is kinda expensive if you are migrating a customer who has been on your network forever. at $50/mo for typical service it will take 6 months just to pay off a PMP450 SM. However if you can migrate that same client to a ePMP for ~$100 it will only take 2 months. (and that calc is just for the SM, doesn't include the AP etc)
I know we are in this boat. We've overlaid PMP450 over PMP100 and we sing up new clients on 450 but our installed base is more difficult. We've tried to entice them to upgrade their service plan in order to up grade hardware but not everyone want to do that. If I can over lay ePMP and it syncs with PMP100 then i can upgrade my installed base at a reasonable cost. also if they can get the frames to sync with PMP100 i'm pretty certain that ePMP will sync with 430 and 450. 2 cents -sean On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: > I thought all PMP was 2.5 ms and ePMP was 5 ms. Once you had 2.5 ms, you > got the whole family. > > We'll need someone more PMP smart to chime in. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > > Midwest Internet Exchange > http://www.midwest-ix.com > > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> > *To: *[email protected] > *Sent: *Thursday, July 23, 2015 3:12:38 PM > > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP + Radius > > I see what you're saying, I don't know why it's that way, but for some > reason it needs 2.5ms framing to work with pmp100. Perhaps the pmp450 is a > multiplicative? > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 4:10 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Pay attention to what I'm responding to, Josh. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> >> Midwest Internet Exchange >> http://www.midwest-ix.com >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> >> *To: *[email protected] >> *Sent: *Thursday, July 23, 2015 3:08:12 PM >> >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP + Radius >> >> Not until 2.5ms framing >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Not being a PMP user, what's different with 430\450 that makes it not >>> match this new framing? I thought 100 synced with 430\450, therefore if >>> ePMP matched 100, it would 430 and 450 as well. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange >>> http://www.midwest-ix.com >>> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: *"Sakid Ahmed" <[email protected]> >>> *To: *[email protected] >>> *Sent: *Thursday, July 23, 2015 3:02:14 PM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP + Radius >>> >>> Speaking of PMP100 co-location, we are seeking about 10 beta candidates >>> who would be willing to co-locate ePMP 100 next to their PMP100. Following >>> are some of the highlights - >>> >>> - Configure ePMP to 2.5 ms >>> - Support 75/25 (the most tested configuration during beta) >>> - Use CMM4 or onboard GPS with any combination on the PMP100 (Haven’t >>> verified 3rd party sync just yet) >>> - 5 MHz guard band for vertical install or replacing a couple of PMP100 >>> with an ePMP 1000 & 90 degree sector >>> - Offline frame calculator and a guide will be available >>> >>> Please hit Dan or I offline if you are interested. As always, thanks >>> in advance. >>> >>> Sakid >>> >>> On Jul 23, 2015, at 2:38 PM, Dan Sullivan < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Paul, >>> >>> 2.5 will include: >>> >>> 2.5 msec frame >>> Collocation with Canopy FSK >>> AP WiFi providing connectivity to ePMP SM WiFi, Ubiquiti SM WiFi, and >>> Mikrotik SM WiFi; and outdoor WiFi hotspot >>> ePTP DFS channel support >>> uPNP >>> >>> Dan >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On >>> Behalf Of *Paul McCall >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 22, 2015 9:26 PM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP + Radius >>> >>> Is there a feature list of what’s coming in 2.5 ? >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On >>> Behalf Of *Dan Sullivan >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 22, 2015 4:57 PM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP + Radius >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Our next release is 2.5.0 and it is coming out next month. >>> >>> The release after this will contain VLAN VSAs and RADIUS >>> Authentication for the SMs. >>> >>> Daniel Sullivan >>> ePMP Software Manager >>> Cambium Networks >>> Cambium Networks Community Forum >>> <http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On >>> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 22, 2015 3:53 PM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP + Radius >>> >>> If you ask in the forum you get a pretty quick answer. It's always a >>> solid answer, too. >>> >>> I don't think anything with VLANs changed in 2.4.3 but I don't use >>> them. Nor do I use Radius. >>> >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> I saw that Cambium released software version 2.4.3 recently. I hoping >>> they would allow the ability to assign VLANs with radius (does not look >>> like they have). Does anyone know if Cambium ever plans on offering that >>> functionality on the ePMP platform? >>> >>> Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
