If you are using high quality, high tension strength CAT5 fiber is cheaper
than a single run.

On Mon, Aug 3, 2015, 4:34 PM Justin Wilson - MTIN <[email protected]> wrote:

> My thoughts on fiber and power up the tower.
>
> If you are doing more than 6 runs of good shielded cable over 200 feet
> then fiber isn’t that much more expensive.  You are going to burn through 2
> boxes of cat5/6.  Thats the cost of your fiber right there.
>
> You get several benefits with Fiber.  Eric does it a little different than
> I do.  With his system make sure all of your grounds are good.  All of them
> tied back to a single place.
>
> I differ in my thinking. Not saying his way is wrong, just a school of
> thought.  My school involves floating the ground.  Fiber and DC travel up
> the tower to a RB2011, which acts as a media converter.  The APS and
> Backhauls can be powered by whatever works for you.  Dumb POEs, PacketFlux,
> Tycon power, etc.  This floating ground isolates the equipment from house
> power. We see most of the events come from the house side and travel up the
> tower on it’s way to reaching out to the sky.  This is how most lightning
> “strikes” happen anyway.  So, we cut off the path from the house power to
> the equipment with deep cycle batteries and such.
>
> I did a blog article about our box design. http://www.mtin.net/blog/?p=277
>
> Justin
>
>
> ---
> Justin Wilson <[email protected]>
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>
> On Aug 3, 2015, at 1:06 PM, David <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Seems like a lot of work for a single site.
> We use the hybrid cable like Lewis mentioned and we also use the hangers
> but negate the extra run of
> wire for power.
> �I also used a CMM4 to do everything your box does.
>
>
> On 08/03/2015 11:21 AM, Eric Rogers wrote:
>
> ALL of our major towers (100 people or more) and all new builds have fiber
> up.� We use Outside Plant (same as we use for FTTx) up the tower, and use
> 1/2� hoisting grips with 1/2� snap-in hangers.� We then use Corning
> CCH-CF patch panels at the top and a rack mount at the bottom.� As for
> power, we run Liquid Tight �� ARMORED conduit and use 7/8� hoist
> grips and snap-in hangers.� We do run 120v to the top, and put an outlet
> box at the top.� Then we down-convert to 24v with PacketFlux sync and PoE
> gear.� For the 1-off like airfibers, we then just use a PoE injector at
> the top.
> �
> BE SURE TO USE GROUND KITS ON ALL FIBER AND ELECTRICAL CONDUIT AT THE TOP
> AND BOTTOM!
> �
> We then use a Sinewave Inverter/Charger (Xantrex Freedom SW) and BIG
> telecom batteries for the UPS.
> �
> The only damage we have sustained was because lightning hit the
> transformer directly and actually blew it up.� The power company had to
> replace it totally�
> �
>
> Eric Rogers
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> www.pdsconnect.me
> (317) 831-3000 x200
>
> �
> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
> Behalf Of *Paul McCall
> *Sent:* Monday, August 3, 2015 10:53 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower vs. ethernet
> �
> We are seeking feedback from people that are using fiber up the tower
> instead of Cat5.� Interested to know what equipment (power) you are
> running at the base, and what equipment (switches, routers, POE, Ethernet
> protection etc.) �that you have at the top.
> �
> How is it working for you?� Has having everything at the top proved to
> be much more stable?� It�s kinda scary to change from our current way
> of doing it, but power surges are kicking are butt, clobbering radios on
> the Ethernet side (mostly ePMP).�
> �
> Looking forward to some good feedback.
> �
> Thanks!
> �
> Paul
> �
> Paul McCall, Pres.
> PDMNet / Florida Broadband
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
> 772-564-6800 office
> 772-473-0352 cell
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> �
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