Yeah, it is amazing. I spent some time today digging into taxes on communications services, and voice in particular, the rabbit hole just gets deeper and deeper the further you go down it.

On 8/5/2015 5:50 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
Dave you are correct in pointing out that stuff varies from state to state...

To make thing interesting...(really interesting..)... check with your state, because many will look at the USF Fee you are charging (recovering from) the end user, is considered revenue and is subject to communication taxes...

:)

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    *From: *"David Sovereen" <[email protected]>
    *To: *[email protected]
    *Sent: *Wednesday, August 5, 2015 1:25:45 PM
    *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Calculating USF

    What is and is not subject to sales tax differs from state to state.

    In Michigan and Wisconsin, the two states in which we operate, all
    telephony services delivered to an address in that state are
    subject to sales tax—intrastate, interstate, and international.
     You should definitely check with your state’s sales tax authority
    before employing what Randy is showing.  If your state only taxes
    intrastate telephony services, then I would agree that Randy’s
    calculation could be appropriiate.

    I am not a lawyer or accountant either.  Just want to caution
    people who are thinking about jumping on the calculation below.

    Dave

        On Aug 5, 2015, at 11:40 AM, Randy Cosby <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Taking this further...  If you have to charge/pay state taxes
        that are not specified as "Gross reciepts" taxes, you
        charge/pay on the intrastate portion: 35.1% x Tax rate.  Using
        Dave's example assuming a 7% state sales tax rate:

        $25 VoIP Bundle
        35.1% = Intrastate = $8.78 Intrastate
        $8.78 * 7% = $0.61 state sales tax due.

        Not an accountant or lawyer, but this is what my telecom
        consultant has advised us to do.

        Oh, and each municipality has a different tax rate here that
        is added to the state sales tax base. Joy.

        Randy

        On 8/5/2015 8:53 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

            Excellent answer!

            Josh Luthman
            Office: 937-552-2340
            Direct: 937-552-2343
            1100 Wayne St
            Suite 1337
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            On Aug 5, 2015 10:50 AM, "David Sovereen"
            <[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                USF is a tax on interstate phone services.

                If you charge for intrastate and interstate services
                separately, you can tax the interstate charges at the
                USF rate.  If you do not, and you can determine the
                percentage of minutes that are interstate vs
                intrastate, you can charge USF on that percentage of
                the total charge.  There are some reporting
                requirements if you are doing this.  Otherwise, you
                can use the Safe Harbor amount which assumes that
                64.9% of the bundles interstate+intrastate charge is
                interstate and charge USF on that.

                Example:

                $25 VoIP Bundle
                64.9% = Interstate = $14.40 Interstate
                $14.40 x USF (presently 17.1%) = $2.46 USF due

                Dave


                > On Aug 5, 2015, at 10:12 AM, Simon Westlake
                <[email protected]> wrote:
                >
                > I seem to vaguely remember someone once telling me
                it is calculated as a percentage of the tax that you
                assess your customer, but that doesn't seem right to
                me. Googling has proved fruitless. Anyone here collect
                USF and, if so, how do you calculate it? Or even if
                you don't collect USF but know how it should be done,
                that'll work too!






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