Hills and speed are your enemies. 70mph or more chews up the battery. The 2016 Leaf will probably have the 30KWH battery, the 2017 may have an optional 85KWH battery.
Rory From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 1:50 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla Yeah, but downhill is cheating... I'm guessing you use more than 3% going the other direction? On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Nope, I can end up with more energy at the bottom of a long hill every day when I go home. Generally I have about 62% left and 3 miles later it is 65% due to the regen braking. From: Josh Luthman<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 2:40 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla Every time you hit breaks you're pissing away energy. Now with a lot of hybrid/electric cars you see some recovery to the batteries, but by no means will it be 100%. You won't get 30 miles through construction unless you do little or no braking. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340<tel:937-552-2340> Direct: 937-552-2343<tel:937-552-2343> 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 4:34 PM, Nate Burke <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Ok, this might be a stupid question, but if you get stuck in Traffic, that uses almost no battery then, right? Other than the stop and go. Would that kill it quicker? Example, there is a 30 mile drive, but through construction. Traffic either flows nicely, or it takes an extra 20 min in stop and go traffic. Would you trust it? On 8/10/2015 3:23 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I don’t use the projected range meter at all. I use the battery % meter when I am worried. It seems to be spot on. But after a while, you just use a trip odometer. When 30 miles have burned off you know you have to turn around or charge at the far end. From: Nate Burke<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 2:21 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla How accurate is the battery meter? Is it like my phone in the cold where as soon as I go to use it, it goes from Full charge to empty. Does it give you a range at projected speed, or just a %? On 8/10/2015 3:17 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I use it year around. When it gets down to zero outside, the range is 60 miles or less. From: Nate Burke<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 2:14 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla Do I remember that you don't use your at all in the winter? How does it do in the cold with the heater running? 40-50 or less? On 8/10/2015 3:09 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: They advertise 90 or 100 or some such number. But if you go much over 60 miles the anxiety starts to mount. I have done 70 I think once. It will probably do 75. It does 60-65 all day long at freeway speeds with HVAC running full bore. From: Josh Luthman<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 2:05 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla What are you getting now? The 2017 should get 120 from a couple of articles. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340<tel:937-552-2340> Direct: 937-552-2343<tel:937-552-2343> 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Do we know yet what the 2017 leaf range is supposed to be? My leaf lease is up and I am probably going to re-up for another year to get the bigger battery. -----Original Message----- From: Rory Conaway Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 1:59 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla He is planning on lower battery costs with the new plant or before. Even the Leaf has gotten profitable since it's conception for that reason which is why they can put a 20% bigger battery pack in for the same amount of money. Rory -----Original Message----- From: Af [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 12:50 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla He can subsidize it with his space transport business. -----Original Message----- From: Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 1:36 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla Hi, The news today about Tesla is they lose $4,000 per car they sell... makes you wonder how much longer that can continue? They are also having to support all their Super charging stations across the country (at no additional cost for customers), etc. It's a great concept, and a great first generation electric car, but it can't continue like this forever... Travis
