But I charge at both ends.

From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 2:50 PM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla

Yeah, but downhill is cheating... I'm guessing you use more than 3% going the 
other direction?


On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

  Nope, I can end up with more energy at the bottom of a long hill every day 
when I go home.  Generally I have about 62% left and 3 miles later it is 65% 
due to the regen braking.  

  From: Josh Luthman 
  Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 2:40 PM
  To: [email protected] 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla

  Every time you hit breaks you're pissing away energy.  Now with a lot of 
hybrid/electric cars you see some recovery to the batteries, but by no means 
will it be 100%.  You won't get 30 miles through construction unless you do 
little or no braking.


  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 4:34 PM, Nate Burke <[email protected]> wrote:

    Ok, this might be a stupid question, but if you get stuck in Traffic, that 
uses almost no battery then, right?  Other than the stop and go.  Would that 
kill it quicker?  Example, there is a 30 mile drive, but through construction.  
Traffic either flows nicely, or it takes an extra 20 min in stop and go 
traffic.  Would you trust it?



    On 8/10/2015 3:23 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

      I don’t use the projected range meter at all.  I use the battery % meter 
when I am worried.  It seems to be spot on.  But after a while, you just use a 
trip odometer.  When 30 miles have burned off you know you have to turn around 
or charge at the far end.  

      From: Nate Burke 
      Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 2:21 PM
      To: [email protected] 
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla

      How accurate is the battery meter?  Is it like my phone in the cold where 
as soon as I go to use it, it goes from Full charge to empty.  Does it give you 
a range at projected speed, or just a %?



      On 8/10/2015 3:17 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

        I use it year around.  When it gets down to zero outside, the range is 
60 miles or less.  

        From: Nate Burke 
        Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 2:14 PM
        To: [email protected] 
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla

        Do I remember that you don't use your at all in the winter?  How does 
it do in the cold with the heater running?  40-50 or less?



        On 8/10/2015 3:09 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

          They advertise 90 or 100 or some such number.  But if you go much 
over 60 miles the anxiety starts to mount.  I have done 70 I think once.  It 
will probably do 75.  It does 60-65 all day long at freeway speeds with HVAC 
running full bore.  

          From: Josh Luthman 
          Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 2:05 PM
          To: [email protected] 
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla

          What are you getting now?  The 2017 should get 120 from a couple of 
articles.


          Josh Luthman
          Office: 937-552-2340
          Direct: 937-552-2343
          1100 Wayne St
          Suite 1337
          Troy, OH 45373

          On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

            Do we know yet what the 2017 leaf range is supposed to be?  My leaf 
lease is up and I am probably going to re-up for another year to get the bigger 
battery.

            -----Original Message----- From: Rory Conaway
            Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 1:59 PM
            To: [email protected]
            Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla

            He is planning on lower battery costs with the new plant or before. 
 Even the Leaf has gotten profitable since it's conception for that reason 
which is why they can put a 20% bigger battery pack in for the same amount of 
money.

            Rory

            -----Original Message-----

            From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
            Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 12:50 PM
            To: [email protected]
            Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla

            He can subsidize it with his space transport business.

            -----Original Message----- From: Travis Johnson
            Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 1:36 PM
            To: [email protected]
            Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla

            Hi,

            The news today about Tesla is they lose $4,000 per car they sell...
            makes you wonder how much longer that can continue? They are also 
having
            to support all their Super charging stations across the country (at 
no
            additional cost for customers), etc.

            It's a great concept, and a great first generation electric car, 
but it
            can't continue like this forever...

            Travis










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