Not if it's NLOS.
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Jay Weekley <[email protected]> wrote: > But the .75 and .4 mile clear line sight shots should be pretty hot > shouldn't they? Better than -52 to -59 I would think > > Adam Moffett wrote: > >> Oh....all bets are off if it's NLOS. Any crazy crap could happen. >> >> On 9/3/2015 1:51 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: >> >>> Is the consensus that a LOS shot from .75 and .4 miles should be a lot >>> better than -52 to -60 with an integrated SM only? The customer in >>> question is NLOS by the way. >>> >>> [email protected] wrote: >>> >>>> Possibly. Dishes have one really sharp focal point. >>>> Panels just need to get as much of the area in phase as possible. You >>>> can move them off boresight and actually get more signal in a multipath >>>> situation than a reflector can. >>>> *From:* Josh Luthman <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 3, 2015 9:19 AM >>>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Can you be too close to use a dish? >>>> Integrated wouldn't pick up that much better if it was NLOS. >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 11:17 AM, Mathew Howard <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Or it's nlos. >>>> >>>> On Sep 3, 2015 9:37 AM, "Adam Moffett" <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> My point is, at 0.6 miles if he was on main lobe he would have >>>> a -40 something. Being on a sidelobe gets him the -67. >>>> Shouldn't the dish still add 10 more db? >>>> >>>> ....unless we're interpreting this as meaning a side lobe of >>>> the dish. That's possible, but at .6 miles the installer >>>> would have to be drunk. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 9/3/2015 10:31 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Side lobe wouldn't be 10db if the focal point is 10db. >>>>> Otherwise you could aim on side lobes all day without >>>>> consequence. >>>>> >>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340> >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343> >>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>> >>>>> On Sep 3, 2015 10:29 AM, "Adam Moffett" <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Maybe I'm crazy, but a 10db antenna will still give 10db >>>>> if it's aimed at a sidelobe won't it? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 9/3/2015 10:27 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: >>>>> >>>>> That was one thing that I was thinking about as well. >>>>> If I got my azimuth correct and the guys on the tower >>>>> got the antenna aligned correctly they should be on >>>>> the outside of the main lobe but we've got two LOS >>>>> customers at .75 and .4 miles that have signals in >>>>> the -50's. I expected them to be in the -30's or >>>>> -40's. >>>>> >>>>> Faisal Imtiaz wrote: >>>>> >>>>> you are hitting a side lobe ....... >>>>> for best results, try to adjust your antenna tilt >>>>> on the AP. >>>>> >>>>> (Have someone look at the CPE's (paying attention >>>>> to the farthest ones), and then adjust the tilt >>>>> on the AP Antenna... so as to best combination of >>>>> signals on the close by cpe's and the far cpe..) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> :) >>>>> >>>>> Faisal Imtiaz >>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street >>>>> Miami, FL 33155 >>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >>>>> <tel:305%20663%205518%20x%20232> >>>>> >>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <tel:%28305%29663-5518> >>>>> Option 2 or Email: [email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> >>>>> From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" >>>>> <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 9:18:43 AM >>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Can you be too close to use >>>>> a dish? >>>>> I upgraded a customer to 2.4 ePMP last week >>>>> that was about .6 miles from >>>>> the tower. The signal with just an >>>>> integrated SM was -67 so I decided >>>>> to use one of Chuck's dishes for ePMP but >>>>> only got an extra 2 to 3 db >>>>> improvement. The last time (only time) I >>>>> used the dish I got 8 to 10 >>>>> db improvement but was about 2 miles from the >>>>> tower. Is that too close >>>>> to the tower for a dish or is that just the >>>>> nature of wireless? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >
