Very interesting...definitely worth knowing.  The simple answer is that it
probably won't associate but could which in my experience means it will
leave the SM stranded.  It's a simple toggle to different frame size
anyways =)


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Dan Sullivan <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Josh,
>
>
>
> Good question from yesterday as it started an internal discussion.  Let me
> give some more details as my “No” answer is not as black and white as I
> indicated.
>
>
>
> When running TDD mode based MAC interfaces (e.g. 5 msec, Flexible, and now
> 2.5 msec), the AP defines the content and timing of each frame which
> includes when each SM in the UL can transmit.  Therefore, as long as the SM
> does what it is told, this provides a great deal of compatibility between
> releases.
>
>
>
> For 2.5 msec frames from a 2.5 AP, a 2.4.3 SM will work in 75/25 and 50/50
> modes, but not with the same performance as a 2.5 SM.
>
>
>
> A 2.4.3 SM will work in 30/70 mode as long as at least one 2.4.3 SM does
> network entry right when the AP first comes up, but the 2.4.3 SM will not
> work if it does network entry later and there were no 2.4.3 SMs that did
> network entry when the AP first came up.  The 2.4.3 SM will be at a
> performance deficit compared to a 2.5 SM.
>
>
>
> There was no QA testing done between the 2.5 AP in 2.5 msec mode <-> 2.4.3
> SM.  It was done with 2.5 AP in 2.5 msec mode <-> 2.5 SM.  Therefore, there
> is a greater chance that something could not work in the 2.5 AP in 2.5 msec
> mode <-> 2.4.3 SM.
>
>
>
> My recommendation is similar, upgrade your SMs to the 2.5 release first
> and then set the AP to 2.5 msec mode.
>
>
>
> And yes, there was some intentionality to the 2.5 release containing the
> 2.5 msec feature J
>
>
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 09, 2015 5:14 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP AP running 2.5 ms - station firmware
> requirement
>
>
>
> Thanks guys!!!
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 6:13 PM, Dan Sullivan <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> Josh,
>
>
>
> No.  2.4.3 stations cannot support 2.5 msec frames.  You will need to
> upgrade your stations to the 2.5 release and then they will be able to
> listen to an AP configured to 2.5 msec frames.
>
>
>
> Daniel Sullivan
>
> ePMP Software Manager
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 09, 2015 5:08 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] ePMP AP running 2.5 ms - station firmware requirement
>
>
>
> I'm wondering if my stations at 2.4.3 can talk to an AP doing 2.5ms
> frames.  Does anyone know?
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>

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