That is very good to know. So, since our APs are all on 75/25 and 2.4.3
now, once I upgrade everything to 2.5 and switch to 2.5ms, if I happen to
miss an SM or two, they'll probably still work.

On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Very interesting...definitely worth knowing.  The simple answer is that it
> probably won't associate but could which in my experience means it will
> leave the SM stranded.  It's a simple toggle to different frame size
> anyways =)
>
>
> Josh Luthman
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> Direct: 937-552-2343
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>
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Dan Sullivan <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Josh,
>>
>>
>>
>> Good question from yesterday as it started an internal discussion.  Let
>> me give some more details as my “No” answer is not as black and white as I
>> indicated.
>>
>>
>>
>> When running TDD mode based MAC interfaces (e.g. 5 msec, Flexible, and
>> now 2.5 msec), the AP defines the content and timing of each frame which
>> includes when each SM in the UL can transmit.  Therefore, as long as the SM
>> does what it is told, this provides a great deal of compatibility between
>> releases.
>>
>>
>>
>> For 2.5 msec frames from a 2.5 AP, a 2.4.3 SM will work in 75/25 and
>> 50/50 modes, but not with the same performance as a 2.5 SM.
>>
>>
>>
>> A 2.4.3 SM will work in 30/70 mode as long as at least one 2.4.3 SM does
>> network entry right when the AP first comes up, but the 2.4.3 SM will not
>> work if it does network entry later and there were no 2.4.3 SMs that did
>> network entry when the AP first came up.  The 2.4.3 SM will be at a
>> performance deficit compared to a 2.5 SM.
>>
>>
>>
>> There was no QA testing done between the 2.5 AP in 2.5 msec mode <->
>> 2.4.3 SM.  It was done with 2.5 AP in 2.5 msec mode <-> 2.5 SM.  Therefore,
>> there is a greater chance that something could not work in the 2.5 AP in
>> 2.5 msec mode <-> 2.4.3 SM.
>>
>>
>>
>> My recommendation is similar, upgrade your SMs to the 2.5 release first
>> and then set the AP to 2.5 msec mode.
>>
>>
>>
>> And yes, there was some intentionality to the 2.5 release containing the
>> 2.5 msec feature J
>>
>>
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 09, 2015 5:14 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP AP running 2.5 ms - station firmware
>> requirement
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks guys!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 6:13 PM, Dan Sullivan <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Josh,
>>
>>
>>
>> No.  2.4.3 stations cannot support 2.5 msec frames.  You will need to
>> upgrade your stations to the 2.5 release and then they will be able to
>> listen to an AP configured to 2.5 msec frames.
>>
>>
>>
>> Daniel Sullivan
>>
>> ePMP Software Manager
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 09, 2015 5:08 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] ePMP AP running 2.5 ms - station firmware requirement
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm wondering if my stations at 2.4.3 can talk to an AP doing 2.5ms
>> frames.  Does anyone know?
>>
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>>
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