Anybody sneak you a beer?

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 9:27 AM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Hmmmm

At 14 I was playing bass for Hidden Smile and got a gig in a night club.  All 
of us except one were underage so at break time bouncer would escort us to a 
lobby area.   It was supposed to be a  Thursday Friday  and Saturday gig....we 
played Thursday and our manager, guitar players mum got us some dough for 
cancelling other nights.   It was a Ramada Inn with a club (still there!!!) and 
pancake house next door.  We were excited but "smoke filled room of electric 
sound" (apologies to Carole King and Blood Sweat and Tears for ripping off 
lines form Snow Queen..btw a song horn players on list should listen to at 
least once) .. was nauseating.   Most scientific thing we did was watch our 
neighbor almost burn my dad's workshop down with a cake pan filled with gas and 
kite string attached to sheet to make it fly...sheet caught fire and then 
roof...we ran ...My dad put out fire and told Ernesto to go home and never come 
back for like the 2000th time.   That guy was a real life Dennis the 
Menace...now an EMT in Phoenix area....i should write a book about him......he 
made a city bus chase us!!!!!!

Jaime Solorza 
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 9:07 AM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote:

  I'm pretty sure you weren't typical... but I'm equally sure I wouldn't have 
thought that clock thing was any great achievement at 14, I could see myself 
building something like that when I was about 7.

  It looks to me exactly like what a kid would build if he wanted to make a 
fake bomb to get some attention...


  On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

    Perhaps I was not typical, but by 14 I was making my own printed circuit 
boards with a sharpie and ferric chloride.  Also made my own gunpowder, 
attempted to make nitro cellulose and mercury azide.  (It was lucky that the 
latter failed).  I was also having a decent amount of romantic success.  Had a 
car and a restricted license to drive to and from school (which I defined as 
any location where I might learn something).  I was also an apprentice in a 
machine shop and had a certificate from the steamfitters union as a welder.  
Made excellent acetylene bombs.

    Philo Farnsworth invented electronic scanning for TV at this age.

    When my mom was 14 she had been out on her own for a year.

    Joan of Arc was 15 I think when she lead an army.  Alexander the Great was 
young.
    Lots of young people do great things.

    So, this 14 year old...
    Was he naive enough to think he had actually "made" something?  Is he just 
simple?
    Or was he trying to do a PR stunt?

    Are 14 year olds these days really that clueless?


    -----Original Message----- From: Mark - Myakka Technologies
    Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 8:19 PM
    To: That One Guy /sarcasm
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Hmmmm


    Kid = 14 year old kid - they do dumb stuff

    English Teacher = cave man - doesn't understand electronics, is very 
concerned
    needs to consult with the elders

    Principle = 1/2 douche - I can understand him calling the cops to
    cover his ass.

    Engineering Teacher = full douche with no balls.  Were the hell was
    this guy.  He was most likely the only one in the school that could
    translate between what the kid did and dumb it down enough for
    everyone to understand.

    Police - 50% douche / 50% caveman. What is this
    foreign wizard technology.  I think I saw one of these on TV once, must
    be a bomb.  Burn him!

    Every adult in the room with the kid as a group - 150% douche - At
    what point in time did it become acceptable to bully and threaten a 14
    year old kid.  We have 5 - 7 adult authority figures in a room with a 14
    year old kid.  The best they could come up with is to slap him in hand 

    cuffs and drag him to jail.  BTW - lets make sure we do it when all
    the other kids are in the hall.  WTF - why weren't his parents called to
    the school?  Don't give me the crap that they really thought it was a
    bomb.  If they thought it was a bomb, the bomb squad would have been
    there and the school would have been evacuated.

    Police chief - Almost acted normal.  Came out fairly quick that there
    was nothing to see here, so just keep moving on.  He dropped the
    charges real quick.  Guess he didn't want anything to do with this
    circus.

    School system - 100% douche - how to you give a kid suspension for not
    doing anything.  He didn't build a bomb.  He didn't pretend it was a
    bomb.  He never mentioned the bomb word.  When asked he showed the
    teacher the clock.  He wasn't trying to hide anything.  What exactly
    did he get suspended for?

    Father - not sure where to put him, seems to have a chip on his
    shoulder.


    At the end of the day it does matter what this kid brought to school.
    It doesn't matter that he is Muslim, Jewish, Mormon or Christian.  He
    did nothing wrong.  He answered the questions truthfully, he never
    threatened anyone, and he never tried to hide anything.  The adults in
    this story FAILED.  At any given point in time we had 7-8 adults at
    the school trying to figure out what happen.  As usual now a days they
    over reacted and common sense what thrown into the void.  This should
    have never been a news story.  It should have never left the school.

    Parents should have been called.  Maybe one police officer should have
    shown up.  A rational discussion of what happen should have taken
    place.  Kid should have been advised to clear all future
    experiments/inventions with engineering teacher.  Maybe all future
    engineering projects should stay in the engineering lab until after
    school.  Kid should have been sent back to class, parents back to
    work, police back to speed traps, and principal back to whatever
    principles do now a days.

    I only have 3 more years left of dealing with public schools.  It is
    sad I'm counting the days that my children go off to college.



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    Tuesday, September 22, 2015, 8:31:57 PM, you wrote:

    TOGs> realistically how does anyone here or most anyone in the
    TOGs> non jihad world even know what a bomb in a briefcase looks like,
    TOGs> beyond what is on tv. The kid is a douche, his dad is a douche,
    TOGs> whoever escalated it to an arrest is a douche, whoever reported
    TOGs> it is a solid citizen, better to report and be wrong than scrape
    TOGs> kids off walls. the president is a douche for inviting him to
    TOGs> the white house before ensuring it wasn't a stunt.
    TOGs> He will get 15 minutes, and a ton of free loot (look at
    TOGs> the Microsoft care package) his dad will further his agenda, and
    TOGs> some new travesty will pop up.
    TOGs> the only thing that changed is his ability to fly
    TOGs> unmolested, he made the top ten on the no fly lists I bet.
    TOGs> He better hope he didn't social media it up about his
    TOGs> plans for this stunt, he will have royally fucked his life up if
    TOGs> he did.




    TOGs> I wonder if he was planning on adding batteries to make it a portable 
alarm clock


    TOGs> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 6:02 PM, - -
    TOGs> <[email protected]> wrote:
    TOGs> Bombs in briefcases are something from a bad action movie...





        On September 22, 2015 at 3:53 PM George Skorup <[email protected]> 
wrote:



        I don't doubt there was prejudice based only on his name, but you know
        what I think of when I see a clock in a briefcase? A damn bomb! What he
        did was as dumb as painting over or taking the orange muzzle piece off
        of a water gun and then running around town with it. You're gonna get
        shot by the cops, dumb ass.

        Maybe that's un-PC of me. I don't give a shit.

        On 9/22/2015 5:34 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
        > I saw a teevee interview with the kid and honestly he seemed like the
        > super nerdy kid (like myself) who would disassemble stuff and
        > reassemble it to make it better or "more cool".ᅵ He really did not
        > seem provocative or anything.ᅵ He was super excited to show off his
        > "invention".ᅵ Granted to us "expert" adults his invention seems like
        > just a repackaging but give the kid a break, he's 14 and has probably
        > just learned about electronics and such.ᅵ That was my take on the
        > revere engineering article and the news interview.
        >
        > 2 cents
        >
        > -Sean
        >
        > On Tuesday, September 22, 2015, Chuck McCown <[email protected]
        > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
        >
        >ᅵ ᅵ ᅵThat reverse engineering article lead me to wonder if the 
kid >was
        >ᅵ ᅵ ᅵtrying to be provocative.
        >ᅵ ᅵ ᅵ*From:* Bill Prince
        >ᅵ ᅵ ᅵ<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
        >ᅵ ᅵ ᅵ*Sent:* Tuesday, September 22, 2015 4:17 PM
        >ᅵ ᅵ ᅵ*To:* [email protected]
        <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
        >ᅵ ᅵ ᅵ*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Hmmmm
        >ᅵ ᅵ ᅵHmmm indeed.
        >
        >ᅵ ᅵ ᅵWhen I saw that (maybe 2 seconds of viewing time) on the 
>evening
        >ᅵ ᅵ ᅵnews, I came away with two things. One, where's the alleged
        >ᅵ ᅵ ᅵexplosive? and Two, that's not even a MacGiver'ed clock, 
it's
        >ᅵ ᅵ ᅵmerely a commercial "clock" that's been partially 
>disassembled.
        >
        >ᅵ ᅵ ᅵMy conclusion? The teacher and the police are idiots.
        >
        >ᅵ ᅵ ᅵbp
        >ᅵ ᅵ ᅵ<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
        >
        >ᅵ ᅵ ᅵOn 9/22/2015 2:00 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
        >>
        >>ᅵ ᅵ
        
http://blogs.artvoice.com/techvoice/2015/09/17/reverse-engineering-ahmed-mohameds-clock-and-ourselves/
        >












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