I'm pretty sure you weren't typical... but I'm equally sure I wouldn't have
thought that clock thing was any great achievement at 14, I could see
myself building something like that when I was about 7.
It looks to me exactly like what a kid would build if he wanted to make a
fake bomb to get some attention...

On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

> Perhaps I was not typical, but by 14 I was making my own printed circuit
> boards with a sharpie and ferric chloride.  Also made my own gunpowder,
> attempted to make nitro cellulose and mercury azide.  (It was lucky that
> the latter failed).  I was also having a decent amount of romantic
> success.  Had a car and a restricted license to drive to and from school
> (which I defined as any location where I might learn something).  I was
> also an apprentice in a machine shop and had a certificate from the
> steamfitters union as a welder.  Made excellent acetylene bombs.
>
> Philo Farnsworth invented electronic scanning for TV at this age.
>
> When my mom was 14 she had been out on her own for a year.
>
> Joan of Arc was 15 I think when she lead an army.  Alexander the Great was
> young.
> Lots of young people do great things.
>
> So, this 14 year old...
> Was he naive enough to think he had actually "made" something?  Is he just
> simple?
> Or was he trying to do a PR stunt?
>
> Are 14 year olds these days really that clueless?
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Mark - Myakka Technologies
> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 8:19 PM
> To: That One Guy /sarcasm
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Hmmmm
>
>
> Kid = 14 year old kid - they do dumb stuff
>
> English Teacher = cave man - doesn't understand electronics, is very
> concerned
> needs to consult with the elders
>
> Principle = 1/2 douche - I can understand him calling the cops to
> cover his ass.
>
> Engineering Teacher = full douche with no balls.  Were the hell was
> this guy.  He was most likely the only one in the school that could
> translate between what the kid did and dumb it down enough for
> everyone to understand.
>
> Police - 50% douche / 50% caveman. What is this
> foreign wizard technology.  I think I saw one of these on TV once, must
> be a bomb.  Burn him!
>
> Every adult in the room with the kid as a group - 150% douche - At
> what point in time did it become acceptable to bully and threaten a 14
> year old kid.  We have 5 - 7 adult authority figures in a room with a 14
> year old kid.  The best they could come up with is to slap him in hand
>
> cuffs and drag him to jail.  BTW - lets make sure we do it when all
> the other kids are in the hall.  WTF - why weren't his parents called to
> the school?  Don't give me the crap that they really thought it was a
> bomb.  If they thought it was a bomb, the bomb squad would have been
> there and the school would have been evacuated.
>
> Police chief - Almost acted normal.  Came out fairly quick that there
> was nothing to see here, so just keep moving on.  He dropped the
> charges real quick.  Guess he didn't want anything to do with this
> circus.
>
> School system - 100% douche - how to you give a kid suspension for not
> doing anything.  He didn't build a bomb.  He didn't pretend it was a
> bomb.  He never mentioned the bomb word.  When asked he showed the
> teacher the clock.  He wasn't trying to hide anything.  What exactly
> did he get suspended for?
>
> Father - not sure where to put him, seems to have a chip on his
> shoulder.
>
>
> At the end of the day it does matter what this kid brought to school.
> It doesn't matter that he is Muslim, Jewish, Mormon or Christian.  He
> did nothing wrong.  He answered the questions truthfully, he never
> threatened anyone, and he never tried to hide anything.  The adults in
> this story FAILED.  At any given point in time we had 7-8 adults at
> the school trying to figure out what happen.  As usual now a days they
> over reacted and common sense what thrown into the void.  This should
> have never been a news story.  It should have never left the school.
>
> Parents should have been called.  Maybe one police officer should have
> shown up.  A rational discussion of what happen should have taken
> place.  Kid should have been advised to clear all future
> experiments/inventions with engineering teacher.  Maybe all future
> engineering projects should stay in the engineering lab until after
> school.  Kid should have been sent back to class, parents back to
> work, police back to speed traps, and principal back to whatever
> principles do now a days.
>
> I only have 3 more years left of dealing with public schools.  It is
> sad I'm counting the days that my children go off to college.
>
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> Tuesday, September 22, 2015, 8:31:57 PM, you wrote:
>
> TOGs> realistically how does anyone here or most anyone in the
> TOGs> non jihad world even know what a bomb in a briefcase looks like,
> TOGs> beyond what is on tv. The kid is a douche, his dad is a douche,
> TOGs> whoever escalated it to an arrest is a douche, whoever reported
> TOGs> it is a solid citizen, better to report and be wrong than scrape
> TOGs> kids off walls. the president is a douche for inviting him to
> TOGs> the white house before ensuring it wasn't a stunt.
> TOGs> He will get 15 minutes, and a ton of free loot (look at
> TOGs> the Microsoft care package) his dad will further his agenda, and
> TOGs> some new travesty will pop up.
> TOGs> the only thing that changed is his ability to fly
> TOGs> unmolested, he made the top ten on the no fly lists I bet.
> TOGs> He better hope he didn't social media it up about his
> TOGs> plans for this stunt, he will have royally fucked his life up if
> TOGs> he did.
>
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> TOGs> I wonder if he was planning on adding batteries to make it a
> portable alarm clock
>
>
> TOGs> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 6:02 PM, - -
> TOGs> <[email protected]> wrote:
> TOGs> Bombs in briefcases are something from a bad action movie...
>
>
>
>
> On September 22, 2015 at 3:53 PM George Skorup <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't doubt there was prejudice based only on his name, but you know
>>> what I think of when I see a clock in a briefcase? A damn bomb! What he
>>> did was as dumb as painting over or taking the orange muzzle piece off
>>> of a water gun and then running around town with it. You're gonna get
>>> shot by the cops, dumb ass.
>>>
>>> Maybe that's un-PC of me. I don't give a shit.
>>>
>>> On 9/22/2015 5:34 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
>>> > I saw a teevee interview with the kid and honestly he seemed like the
>>> > super nerdy kid (like myself) who would disassemble stuff and
>>> > reassemble it to make it better or "more cool".ᅵ He really did not
>>> > seem provocative or anything.ᅵ He was super excited to show off his
>>> > "invention".ᅵ Granted to us "expert" adults his invention seems like
>>> > just a repackaging but give the kid a break, he's 14 and has probably
>>> > just learned about electronics and such.ᅵ That was my take on the
>>> > revere engineering article and the news interview.
>>> >
>>> > 2 cents
>>> >
>>> > -Sean
>>> >
>>> > On Tuesday, September 22, 2015, Chuck McCown <[email protected]
>>> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >ᅵ ᅵ ᅵThat reverse engineering article lead me to wonder if the
>>> kid >was
>>> >ᅵ ᅵ ᅵtrying to be provocative.
>>> >ᅵ ᅵ ᅵ*From:* Bill Prince
>>> >ᅵ ᅵ ᅵ<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
>>> >ᅵ ᅵ ᅵ*Sent:* Tuesday, September 22, 2015 4:17 PM
>>> >ᅵ ᅵ ᅵ*To:* [email protected]
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
>>> >ᅵ ᅵ ᅵ*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Hmmmm
>>> >ᅵ ᅵ ᅵHmmm indeed.
>>> >
>>> >ᅵ ᅵ ᅵWhen I saw that (maybe 2 seconds of viewing time) on the
>>> >evening
>>> >ᅵ ᅵ ᅵnews, I came away with two things. One, where's the alleged
>>> >ᅵ ᅵ ᅵexplosive? and Two, that's not even a MacGiver'ed clock, it's
>>> >ᅵ ᅵ ᅵmerely a commercial "clock" that's been partially
>>> >disassembled.
>>> >
>>> >ᅵ ᅵ ᅵMy conclusion? The teacher and the police are idiots.
>>> >
>>> >ᅵ ᅵ ᅵbp
>>> >ᅵ ᅵ ᅵ<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>> >
>>> >ᅵ ᅵ ᅵOn 9/22/2015 2:00 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>ᅵ ᅵ
>>>
>>> http://blogs.artvoice.com/techvoice/2015/09/17/reverse-engineering-ahmed-mohameds-clock-and-ourselves/
>>> >
>>>
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