Noooo Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 29, 2015 10:41 PM, "Simon Westlake" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Well, I guess the simple solution to being stupid at clothes is to stop > getting dressed. > > On 9/29/2015 9:37 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > This thread apparently. ;-) > > Clothes for one. I'm sure my fiance has a couple more. I'm sure a few here > have a few more as well, but I figured that was a good seed. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Simon Westlake" <[email protected]> <[email protected]> > *To: *[email protected] > *Sent: *Tuesday, September 29, 2015 9:32:46 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar > > I don't believe that Mike. What are you stupid at? > > On 9/29/2015 9:31 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > Naw, not all. I buy some things at which I'm not stupid at. I certainly do > buy some things I am stupid at, though. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> > <[email protected]> > *To: *[email protected] > *Sent: *Tuesday, September 29, 2015 9:25:34 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar > > Ya. All customers are stupid :) > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > On Sep 29, 2015 10:21 PM, "Simon Westlake" <[email protected]> > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> That's not very nice! >> >> On 9/29/2015 9:15 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: >> >> Most customers are stupid. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"That One Guy /sarcasm" <[email protected]> >> <[email protected]> >> *To: *[email protected] >> *Sent: *Tuesday, September 29, 2015 4:17:01 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar >> >> that a very non customercentric approach >> >> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 3:58 PM, Simon Westlake <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> The end game will be to enable a user to import their own data however >>> they want. When we will get to that point, I'm not sure. And all the >>> formatting of that data and everything else is still up in the air. >>> >>> I really want to let people self manage their systems though. I think >>> it's incredibly frustrating to wait on someone else to go back and forth on >>> something like an import, whether that data is from Platypus, Quickbooks or >>> whatever it might be. And it's a lot of manpower on our side to manage all >>> those imports, so it's mutually beneficial if we can make it happen. >>> >>> On 9/29/2015 3:34 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: >>> >>>> Also, import from Platypus? >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown >>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 2:24 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar >>>> >>>> This should be an interesting answer.... >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Jay Weekley >>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 2:22 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar >>>> >>>> Does it come with an "Import From Powercode" button? >>>> >>>> Simon Westlake wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yeah. I'm not saying 'we promise, there will never be any bugs.' But, >>>>> we're not putting something out and saying 'ehh, it probably works. If >>>>> it doesn't, it's beta!' >>>>> >>>>> The whole platform is built around automated testing. Every single >>>>> thing we can think of has an automated test written around it. So >>>>> anytime we change anything, we can run our test suite (which already >>>>> takes a very long time..) and know categorically if we've broken >>>>> anything. On desktop, mobile, the API, billing, one credit card >>>>> processor in particular - everything. >>>>> >>>>> Makes it a lot easier to say 'we're very confident this works.' >>>>> >>>>> I think, the other thing that is going to make this different is we're >>>>> not trying to make every single thing possible for every single >>>>> person. We brought an accountant on board to help design the billing >>>>> system. She directed us in the application of a lot of the billing >>>>> functionality so it could be reported properly and audited properly. >>>>> This means it's pretty likely at some point, somebody is going to ask >>>>> to do XYZ, and we're going to say no - not because we don't want to, >>>>> but because we've built a system that adheres to a specific set of >>>>> principles, and in the eyes of the system, deviating from those >>>>> principles is fundamentally wrong. >>>>> >>>>> The good side of that is that things just work in a sane way, and >>>>> we're really confident that anyone with an accounting background is >>>>> going to be happy with the reporting and audit trail in the system. >>>>> We're building the front end to be pretty simple and easy to use (you >>>>> don't need to be a CPA to figure out how to bill) and that's really >>>>> how we're trying to approach each part of the system - have a clear >>>>> set of laws defined for how a specific system works, and then build >>>>> interfaces that lets humans easily use them. >>>>> >>>>> On 9/29/2015 2:59 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> � >>>>>> read the forum / notes.� it basically says "no beta. >>>>>> ever.�".��� not sure how that will work... >>>>>> that's a LOT of testing for it to never be released to beta... >>>>>> i mean, we all use the software in a different way... >>>>>> � >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> *From:* Brett A Mansfield <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2015 1:30 PM >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar >>>>>> >>>>>> Only question I have is will it be beta forever? I'm kinda done >>>>>> with all of this beta crap. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>> Brett A Mansfield >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 29, 2015, at 11:42 AM, Josh Luthman >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> No it's CALLED sonar.� Which means it doesn't have it.� >>>>>>> Isn't that what all the cool clubs do? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Daniel White >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It uses Sonar.� Geesh. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> � >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> � >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Daniel White >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>__ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 <%2B1%20%28303%29%20746-3590> >>>>>>> <tel:%2B1%20%28303%29%20746-3590> <%2B1%20%28303%29%20746-3590> >>>>>>> <%2B1%20%28303%29%20746-3590> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Skype: danieldwhite >>>>>>> Social: LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 >>>>>>> >: >>>>>>> Twitter <https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> � >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Josh >>>>>>> Luthman >>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2015 10:54 AM >>>>>>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar >>>>>>> >>>>>>> � >>>>>>> >>>>>>> OK.� Why does it have a radar detector?� Does it know >>>>>>> that speeding is wrong? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> � >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340> >>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343> >>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> � >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Simon Westlake >>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, when it detects radar, it shuts down. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 9/29/2015 11:41 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When is the release date? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How much processing power does it take? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How does it perform in the real world? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Will it do DFS? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> � >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340> >>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343> >>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> � >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 12:39 PM, Adam Moffett >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hah. >>>>>>> Will it be more or less than Powercode? >>>>>>> Will it be more or less than Platypus? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 9/29/2015 12:08 PM, Simon Westlake wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, I can confidently say that it will cost >>>>>>> more than Freeside. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 9/29/2015 11:07 AM, Vlad Sedov wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is it more expensive than Freeside? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ehheh >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Vlad >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 9/29/2015 10:37 AM, Simon Westlake >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'll be sharing stuff on the list, >>>>>>> forum and blog as time goes on. >>>>>>> Nothing just yet, but we are >>>>>>> bringing the first few early access >>>>>>> participants in who won't be in NDA, >>>>>>> so they are free to share anything >>>>>>> they want as well. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No, it's all original code built on >>>>>>> completely different technology than >>>>>>> Powercode was. It's a very different >>>>>>> platform. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 9/29/2015 10:35 AM, Steve wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can we get any more details?� >>>>>>> Screen shots?� Etas?� >>>>>>> Roadmaps?� Like is this a fork >>>>>>> of Powercode or from the ground >>>>>>> up? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Simon Westlake" >>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, >>>>>>> 2015 11:04:37 AM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New ISP >>>>>>> Billing Solution: Sonar >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't dare ask which part. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 9/29/2015 9:39 AM, Josh >>>>>>> Luthman wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Reminds me of Silicon >>>>>>> Valley. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>> <tel:937-552-2340> >>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>> <tel:937-552-2343> >>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 29, 2015 10:32 AM, >>>>>>> "Lewis Bergman" >>>>>>> <[email protected] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> � � �Maybe he got good >>>>>>> advice from a lawyer. I am >>>>>>> not one but my >>>>>>> � � �understanding is >>>>>>> that a noncompete can't be >>>>>>> so broad as to prevent >>>>>>> � � �future >>>>>>> employment, which moving out >>>>>>> of the country would >>>>>>> definably >>>>>>> � � �qualify as. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> � � �On Tue, Sep 29, >>>>>>> 2015, 9:19 AM Keefe John >>>>>>> <[email protected] >>>>>>> � � >>>>>>> >>>>>>> �<mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> � � � � �Maybe >>>>>>> he's operating from a >>>>>>> moonbase...or russia. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> � � � � �On >>>>>>> 9/29/2015 9:16 AM, Chuck >>>>>>> McCown wrote: >>>>>>> � � � � �> Wonder >>>>>>> how Simon is getting around >>>>>>> Bertram's 5000 mile non >>>>>>> � � � � �compete >>>>>>> � � � � �> >>>>>>> exclusion zone? >>>>>>> � � � � �> >>>>>>> � � � � �> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: Keefe John >>>>>>> � � � � �> Sent: >>>>>>> Tuesday, September 29, 2015 >>>>>>> 8:14 AM >>>>>>> � � � � �> To: >>>>>>> Animal Farm >>>>>>> � � � � �> >>>>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] New ISP >>>>>>> Billing Solution: Sonar >>>>>>> � � � � �> >>>>>>> � � � � �> This >>>>>>> website just popped up >>>>>>> today.� The product looks >>>>>>> very >>>>>>> � � � � �exciting! >>>>>>> � � � � �> I can't >>>>>>> wait to find out more about >>>>>>> it. >>>>>>> � � � � �> >>>>>>> � � � � �> >>>>>>> https://sonar.software/ >>>>>>> � � � � �> >>>>>>> � � � � �> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://sonar.community/t/announcing-sonar/30 >>>>>>> � � � � �> >>>>>>> � � � � �> >>>>>>> � � � � �> Keefe >>>>>>> John >>>>>>> � � � � �> >>>>>>> Ethoplex >>>>>>> � � � � �> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> � >>>>>>> >>>>>>> � >>>>>>> >>>>>>> � >>>>>>> >>>>>>> � >>>>>>> >>>>>>> � >>>>>>> >>>>>>> � >>>>>>> >>>>>>> � >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>> Avast logo <https://www.avast.com/antivirus> >>>>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus >>>>>>> software. >>>>>>> www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/antivirus> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team >> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >> >> >> > > > >
