I think the app isn't very good, but the tool on a PC or Mac is really good, intuitive, and works well. I see the app as a web GUI on steroids. It just works. I think the more you play with it the more features you realize it has. I think a lot of my counterparts here on this list just don't like it because it's Apple, but I could be wrong.
Thank you, Brett A Mansfield > On Oct 7, 2015, at 3:38 PM, Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote: > > Totally true. Apple makes an AirPort tool of sorts for Windows, but it sucks > major bronto. > > What's even worse is trying to admin an AirPort from an ipad. > > bp > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > >> On 10/7/2015 11:21 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >> My guys hate the Apple routers because they can’t be configured from a web >> GUI, you need the AirPort software on your computer. At least that’s what >> they tell me. >> >> >> From: Brett A Mansfield >> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 1:08 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Consumer routers? >> >> For my customers that want me to sell them or manage their solution I charge >> an extra $25 install fee and $5/mo. I use edgerouters as the router and an >> airport express in bridge mode for the wireless. I can throw on as many of >> the airports as needed to get the job done for an extra fee. >> >> It works really well. I haven't had any customer complaint with it. They >> don't have to power cycle anything ever either. >> >> I buy the airport express in bulk refurbished direct from Apple. If they >> don't have them refurbished I just buy new, but that hasn't happened yet. >> >> Thank you, >> Brett A Mansfield >> >> On Oct 7, 2015, at 11:49 AM, Sterling Jacobson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> This is my biggest gripe right now. >>> >>> >>> >>> The more internet you provide to them, the worse this problem is. >>> >>> >>> >>> I think my contractors are selling mid-range $100 linksys routers. >>> >>> I’m not sure that’s the best thing. >>> >>> >>> >>> I too need to find a handful of routers that really get the job done right. >>> >>> >>> >>> I’ve noticed the Apple routers tend to be pretty good, especially if they >>> have Apple Ecosystem/devices. >>> >>> And apple extenders seem to work better with their apple environment and >>> are way easy for the customer to set up. >>> >>> >>> >>> Other than Apple, I usually recommend a router with external antennas. >>> >>> And TRY to get our people to NOT install the routers in the basement under >>> all the metal ducting, lol! >>> >>> >>> >>> Ideally they are installed on the main floor in a somewhat central location. >>> >>> >>> >>> What I am considering is selling a NON-wireless router for our end point >>> inside the house near the clustered wiring. >>> >>> Then programming any router they get in BRIDGE mode. >>> >>> >>> >>> I still don’t like doing that because the router features are something >>> most of these people want anyways. >>> >>> >>> >>> But with my speeds I would almost just rather make sure they have a wired >>> Gigabit Ethernet router that I can manage and I know is capable, then let >>> them buy however many wireless routers they need to fill in gaps all over >>> their house (or, preferably, ONE powerful wireless router). >>> >>> >>> >>> I just don’t want to be stuck changing port forwarding crap etc. >>> >>> >>> >>> What I really wish was that a separate company would do this for a one >>> time, or monthly charge and handle all their router woes. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Glen Waldrop >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2015 11:39 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Consumer routers? >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks for the input guys. >>> >>> I was mostly looking at what to recommend. I'd rather help on occasion, but >>> my responsibility ends at the CAT5 coming out of the POE. >>> >>> I've been bouncing around the idea of a $5 a month managed RB951 2HnD or >>> something. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >>> From: Justin Wilson - MTIN >>> >>> To: [email protected] >>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 11:51 AM >>> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Consumer routers? >>> >>> >>> >>> My take on this is you have to look at what supporting a customer router >>> costs you in support and service calls. We have several clients who are >>> doing one of a couple things. >>> >>> >>> >>> Some are selling a managed router service for $X a month. This is >>> typically a Mikrotik the ISP has access to. The ISP sets up the wireless, >>> manages the router, and other such functions. This allows for a reference >>> point on the customer side for testing, etc. >>> >>> >>> >>> The other way to approach this is if you don’t want mess with router >>> configuration some folks are including a “modem” that is essentially a hAP >>> or 750. This is just in bridge mode or is the PPPOE client. The customer >>> then is free to plug in their own router if they so desire, but you still >>> have a reference point from the customer side. If you need a customer to >>> bypass their router you simply ask them to plug into port5 or whatever on >>> your “modem”. That port can be setup to do DHCP or whatever. >>> >>> >>> >>> You have to look at how much support consumer routers is costing you. Many >>> folks look at the cost of the routers and the cost to install them or >>> replace them. But if it cuts your support calls by 30% that might mean the >>> difference between hiring another person, or other “soft” costs. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Justin Wilson >>> >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> >>> --- >>> http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO >>> >>> xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth >>> >>> http://www.midwest-ix.com COO/Chairman >>> >>> Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric >>> >>> >>> >>> On Oct 7, 2015, at 11:58 AM, Glen Waldrop <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Are there any consumer routers that don't suck these days? >>> >>> I used to recommend Linksys/Cisco, but since the Belkin buyout quality >>> seems to be going down. They jink with teh firewall and I can't block >>> specific outgoing traffic, can't remote admin anymore, etc... >>> >
