If you shoot one down, make sure you pick up the pieces.  
Drone?  What drone?  I didn’t see no stinkin’ drone.  

From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2015 4:21 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FAA levies $1.9 M civil penalty

I think if you are going to go off private property or above a certain height 
the device should have a tamper proof flight data recorder. Any commercial use, 
flight data recorder. Big, bulky, flight data recorders for all!!
That way, if I shoot one down, if it didn't have a flight data recorder, it was 
illegal, no harm, no foul, if it did have one, the recorder will show they were 
over my property with no signed consent, no harm, no foul.

Registration numbers, very visible too, that way, when one is not on my 
property, but has its camera focused on my daughter, I can track the owner down 
and murder him, his mother, two of his cousins and every pet in his neighborhood

On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 5:16 PM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote:

  Exactly my feelings. I'm perfectly fine with allowing them to do whatever 
they want following existing aircraft rules, but that means they stay above 
500', be licensed and everything else that goes along with that.

  I'm also fine with commercial drones being allowed to follow the existing 
rules for private/hobby (which would mean they'd have to stay under 500', which 
it doesn't sound like was the case here) if, and only if, I'm allowed to shoot 
them down if they fly over my property without permission.


  On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 4:13 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
<[email protected]> wrote:

    If they had to follow existing aircraft rules, perfect with the caveat of 
them being over private property without consent, you should be able to destroy 
them

    On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:

      I have the complete opposite position. Not trolling, that's just how I 
feel. Apply existing regulations where appropriate. Nothing new is required.




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      Intelligent Computing Solutions
      http://www.ics-il.com



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      From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" <[email protected]>
      To: [email protected]
      Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2015 3:31:29 PM
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FAA levies $1.9 M civil penalty 



      good, I hope they go bankrupt. These drones need to get reigned in, and 
it needs to be legal to shoot them down. Assholes have been disrespectful with 
these things from day one

      On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Hardy, Tim <[email protected]> wrote:

        The Federal Aviation Administration wants to levy the “largest civil 
penalty” it has proposed against an unmanned aircraft system operator “for 
endangering the safety of our airspace” by operating drones in a “careless or 
reckless manner,” the agency said in a Tuesday announcement. The proposed $1.9 
million civil penalty against SkyPan International of Chicago alleges that 
between March 21, 2012, and Dec. 15, 2014, SkyPan conducted 65 unauthorized 
operations “in some of our most congest­ed airspace and heavily populated 
cities [including New York City and Chicago], violating airspace regulations 
and various operating rules,” the FAA said. The flights involved aerial 
photography, and the aircraft were “not equipped with a two-way radio, 
transponder, and altitude-reporting equipment,” the FAA said. SkyPan also 
failed to obtain a certificate of waiver or authorization for the operations, 
the release said. SkyPan has 30 days to respond to the FAA’s enforcement 
letter, it said. SkyPan didn’t have an immediate comment.




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