Ken, If you are going to manage the network then manage the whole network. As Steve said you do need to be using the right product. The problem is between the netgear devices and the Customer WiFi devices. Having them have ALL 4 SSID's in their device and it being able to see them all at the same time is causing the problem. We see this frequently from netgear dual band routers when the client connects to both 2G ang 5G networks.
Unifi is one of the better solution that is affordable on the market today. I use it in my house (which does require 2 ap's for coverage) and it works great. I can stream music or watch video through the whole house and not miss a beat when my device switches AP's and it is all the same SSID so less confusion on the customer side of things. This problem is getting worse and worse with dual band routers and I see it a lot with Netgear products. Sincerely, Jason Pond On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:12 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: > What we have here is a failure to communicate? I’m not understanding > Josh’s suggestion, you mean do 4 SSIDs? > > Currently WAP1 has SSIDs Office and Office-5G. WAP2 has SSIDs TVRoom and > TVRoom-5G. So there are already 4 SSIDs. > > But each WAP is fed from an Ethernet port on the Mikrotik. And when a > wireless client moves between WAPs, it is moving between Mikrotik ports. I > believe the 5 minute ageing time on the Mikrotik bridge means that MAC > address persists on the original port for 5 minutes after it has appeared > on another port. Maybe I’m wrong about this, but that’s what appears to be > happening. The Bridge table shows the MAC address only on one port, but > the traffic makes me believe it is actually being flooded to both ports. > This doesn’t really seem right to me. On a switch, I would expect a MAC > address to move pretty quickly to the new port, or if it isn’t in the table > at all, to be flooded to all ports. > > And yes I don’t think the customer needs 2 WAPs to cover his house, but > the customer is always right. And the Mikrotik is leased/managed, the > Netgears he owns. But I get sucked into it because ... well, do I really > have to explain? > > > *From:* Paul McCall <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Thursday, October 22, 2015 8:37 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 2 wireless APs on bridged Mikrotik ports > > > +1 on Josh’s suggestions > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Thursday, October 22, 2015 9:27 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 2 wireless APs on bridged Mikrotik ports > > > > Nope, you already have my suggestion. > > Can you try your idea of a 10s timeout? > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Oct 22, 2015 12:28 AM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> wrote: > > There are 4 SSIDs. But customer has each device “join” each SSID. I > expected the devices to pick one SSID and stay with it down to 1 bar, but > they seem very fickle. > > > > Or are you saying make all the SSIDs the same? I don’t think it matters, > there are 4 wireless networks, even if they are all named the same. > > > > *From:* Josh Luthman <[email protected]> > > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 21, 2015 11:03 PM > > *To:* [email protected] > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 2 wireless APs on bridged Mikrotik ports > > > > Why not do 4 SSIDs? Add the profiles once and then done. > > I think your issue is probably the APs, not the bridge/switch part but it > doesn't really help. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Oct 21, 2015 11:59 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> wrote: > > I have a customer who insisted he needed 2 dual band wireless APs 25 feet > apart in his ranch house. So we have a managed non-WiFi Mikrotik RB2011 in > his basement, feeding two Netgear routers in wireless AP mode. I have the > LAN ports bridged rather than using the switch chips, since there's plenty > of CPU power and it gives more visibility into the traffic. > > So counting 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz, the customer has 4 SSIDs and I think his > devices like iPads are jumping back and forth between networks. And I > think bad things are happening because the bridging table can't keep track > of which port the clients are on. I see weird things like the same amount > of traffic going out the ports to both wireless APs. I never see a MAC > address on both bridge ports, but it is acting like the Mikrotik is > flooding traffic to both ports. > > Should I be tweaking parameters like reducing the ageing time below the > default 5 minutes? Should I be using the switch chips and not bridging? > > Is this a typical problem when devices can choose between multiple APs > close together on the same bridged LAN? >
