It doesn’t mean “NLOS” inherently. It’s all about the gear that enables NLOS, 
as Sean just mentioned.

Patrick Leary, Telrad
727-501-3735

From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 1:46 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450SM 3.65 connectorized antenna options

I still do not understand why 3.65 GHz = NLOS.

We are using it very successfully for LOS.  That does mean however that anyone 
who comes into this area expecting –110 noise floors will probably be 
disappointed.  Things should be better however once 3550-3650 and PALs become 
available.

Same as in any other band, trees close to the subscriber seem to be the worst.  
And here in the midwest, that’s where a lot of the trees are.  Miles of 
cropland, and then 3 rows of trees next to the house.


From: George Skorup<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 12:22 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450SM 3.65 connectorized antenna options

I put my house on 3.6 450. SM+reflector 40' up my tower. One very large maple 
tree about 100 feet away directly in the path. The AP is almost exactly a mile 
away at 230 feet on a regular Cambium "90" degree sector. I have about -57dBm. 
I get about -65dBm when the tree is wet. I get 8X/8X in both cases. Uplink 
might drop to 6X sometimes. Bare SM only got about -72 and I said screw that.
On 10/25/2015 10:50 AM, Sean Heskett wrote:
We have telrad lte on a few towers, and we did a side by side comparison with 
telrad and canopy.

Cambium 450 3.65ghz can go thru a tree or two at close range (less than 1 
mile).  But it only modulates at 1x mimo-a

Telrad lte is able to blast thru a thicket of trees no problem.

We've been decommissioning our 450 3.65ghz and replacing with telrad.

2cents

-Sean


On Sunday, October 25, 2015, Adam Moffett 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Sean,

You have the Compact wimax right?  I'm curious how you'd rate that side by side 
with the PMP450 in 3.65.

Cambium sales said the Compact would give you better NLOS, but where the 450 
connected it would be faster.  Would you say that was accurate?

Thanks,
Adam



Nothing really.  We tried a few and found either a bare SM or SM+dish was the 
best solution.  Everything else was a PITA because the pig tails that come with 
the SM are too short, so you either need to do surgery and replace the cables 
or put the SM in an odd location/orientation to get it connected (if you can 
find one)

2cents

-Sean


On Sunday, October 25, 2015, Paul McCall 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
What has been found as a successful option for attaching to the connectorized 
3.65 SMs?

Paul, PDMNet






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