I absolutely hated UBNTs first cameras and NVR software. I've been doing 
cameras for a long time. At this point, their newer UVC stuff is all I will 
buy. It's cheap, excellent quality, has really good IR with very low power, and 
very easy and quick to install. Their small wireless ones have issues though. 

I've tried all of the ones mentioned in this thread, but I have liked the UBNT 
UVCs the most. I just wish they had some with tilt/pan/zoom features. That is 
all they lack now.

Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield

> On Oct 30, 2015, at 11:59 AM, Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> After all, where would Microsoft be if everyone judged them solely on their 
> first product?
> 
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> 
>> On 10/30/2015 10:57 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>> You can't blame a vendor for a crappy product if they're replaced it with a 
>> product that isn't crappy.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>> 
>> 
>> From: "Sorin Esanu" <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 12:48:57 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Security cameras
>> 
>> Please compare the specs and see what they can do and cannot do.
>> 
>> As far as how it compares with Ubnt, I've tested as some point the unifi 
>> video cameras and they were pretty bad as far as quality, lacking some 
>> basic features (IR filter). It seemed to me like a beta           product 
>> that 
>> should have never be release to the public. As I understand they refined 
>> it, but still, Hikvision is big, with a lot of experience in making just 
>> video surveillance products. Even so, our Hikvision fleet serves us well 
>> and I would not go with Ubnt.
>> 
>> There is also the issue with interoperability: Hikvision cameras are 
>> supported on countless surveillance software and hardware (NVRs); 
>> Hikvision NVRs are supporting countless other cameras (other 
>> manufacturers) and even ONVIF and RTSP. That gives you the possibility 
>> to install a 3rd party product, in case you need it. I don't know if you 
>> can say that about Ubnt. Is that important? Well... if you have 1-2 
>> cameras, probably no. When you go to larger projects, absolutely. Access 
>> control system that interconnect with video surveillance, professional 
>> analytics software, ONVIF support...
>> 
>> I like Ubnt as far as radios, but that's where it stops for me.
>> 
>> On 10/30/2015 6:33 PM, Tushar Patel wrote:
>> > I am new to this so I have question, when you say           following:
>> >
>> >> + real surveillance camera vs things like Granstream or Ubnt 3Mpx
>> > What does it mean to us?
>> >
>> > To me any camera with good quality where you can see faces and/or license 
>> > plate and record it or send via email etc.
>> >
>> > So what does the mentioned camera does more which grandstream and/or ubnt 
>> > does not?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Tushar
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sorin Esanu
>> > Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 10:30 AM
>> > To: [email protected]
>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Security cameras
>> >
>> > Hikvision DS-2CD2632F-I(S) or DS-2CD2732F-I(S)
>> > + cheap
>> > + real surveillance camera vs things like Granstream or Ubnt 3Mpx
>> > + varifocal on board microSD for recording (you do not need NVR!) very
>> > + good video quality IR included, pretty efective for distances up to
>> > + 10m (their marketing
>> > says 30m. BS!)
>> > + app for mobile, tablet, pc. I can be used for live view or search
>> > recordings on SD camera
>> > + POE & 12VDC
>> >
>> > - DWDR, but I guess you cannot ask for true WDR in a 200$ camera
>> >
>> > It's basically one of the cheapest true surveillance cameras you can get 
>> > for ~$200. You can get them even cheaper than that, if you get quantity.
>> > They are also selling very nice NVRs, with decent prices, that can work 
>> > flawless with their cameras.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 10/30/2015 3:05 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>> >> I am constructing a new building and I need a security camera system
>> >> which has DVR functionality and be remotely reachable, preferably via
>> >> mobile. I have had the cheap QSee Sams system and although functional
>> >> it is a pretty big disappointment from most perspectives.
>> >> I know a lot of people use and install these.
>> >>
>> >> Are there any suggestions for systems?
> 

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