It didn’t do the seamless NVR like UBNT.  For a single stand alone it was OK 
but it still cannot see a truck license plate in the dark.  

From: TJ Trout 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 3:44 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Security cameras

Ubnt stuff is unreliable. What didn't you like about the Hikvision? Probably 
just a setting, stuff is flawless 

On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

  You should take a look at the new UBNT stuff.  I also tried Hikvision 
recently and I like the UBNT stuff better.  

  From: TJ Trout 
  Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 12:42 PM
  To: [email protected] 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Security cameras

  I've been doing professional cctv contracting for 10 years and I've never 
been more impressed with a product's price/performance than Hikvision

  On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:

    Or I can blame them for wasting my time and taking my money when they 
clearly had nothing worth selling. 




    On 10/30/2015 2:06 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

      Like if you want to compare helicopters to potatoes.

      Josh Luthman
      Office: 937-552-2340
      Direct: 937-552-2343
      1100 Wayne St
      Suite 1337
      Troy, OH 45373

      On Oct 30, 2015 1:59 PM, "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]> wrote:

        Sure I can. 


        On 10/30/2015 1:57 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

          You can't blame a vendor for a crappy product if they're replaced it 
with a product that isn't crappy.




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          From: "Sorin Esanu" mailto:[email protected] 

          To: [email protected]
          Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 12:48:57 PM
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Security cameras

          Please compare the specs and see what they can do and cannot do.

          As far as how it compares with Ubnt, I've tested as some point the 
unifi 
          video cameras and they were pretty bad as far as quality, lacking 
some 
          basic features (IR filter). It seemed to me like a beta product that 
          should have never be release to the public. As I understand they 
refined 
          it, but still, Hikvision is big, with a lot of experience in making 
just 
          video surveillance products. Even so, our Hikvision fleet serves us 
well 
          and I would not go with Ubnt.

          There is also the issue with interoperability: Hikvision cameras are 
          supported on countless surveillance software and hardware (NVRs); 
          Hikvision NVRs are supporting countless other cameras (other 
          manufacturers) and even ONVIF and RTSP. That gives you the 
possibility 
          to install a 3rd party product, in case you need it. I don't know if 
you 
          can say that about Ubnt. Is that important? Well... if you have 1-2 
          cameras, probably no. When you go to larger projects, absolutely. 
Access 
          control system that interconnect with video surveillance, 
professional 
          analytics software, ONVIF support...

          I like Ubnt as far as radios, but that's where it stops for me.

          On 10/30/2015 6:33 PM, Tushar Patel wrote:
          > I am new to this so I have question, when you say following:
          >
          >> + real surveillance camera vs things like Granstream or Ubnt 3Mpx
          > What does it mean to us?
          >
          > To me any camera with good quality where you can see faces and/or 
license plate and record it or send via email etc.
          >
          > So what does the mentioned camera does more which grandstream 
and/or ubnt does not?
          >
          > Thanks,
          >
          > Tushar
          >
          >
          > -----Original Message-----
          > From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sorin Esanu
          > Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 10:30 AM
          > To: [email protected]
          > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Security cameras
          >
          > Hikvision DS-2CD2632F-I(S) or DS-2CD2732F-I(S)
          > + cheap
          > + real surveillance camera vs things like Granstream or Ubnt 3Mpx
          > + varifocal on board microSD for recording (you do not need NVR!) 
very
          > + good video quality IR included, pretty efective for distances up 
to
          > + 10m (their marketing
          > says 30m. BS!)
          > + app for mobile, tablet, pc. I can be used for live view or search
          > recordings on SD camera
          > + POE & 12VDC
          >
          > - DWDR, but I guess you cannot ask for true WDR in a 200$ camera
          >
          > It's basically one of the cheapest true surveillance cameras you 
can get for ~$200. You can get them even cheaper than that, if you get quantity.
          > They are also selling very nice NVRs, with decent prices, that can 
work flawless with their cameras.
          >
          >
          >
          > On 10/30/2015 3:05 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
          >> I am constructing a new building and I need a security camera 
system
          >> which has DVR functionality and be remotely reachable, preferably 
via
          >> mobile. I have had the cheap QSee Sams system and although 
functional
          >> it is a pretty big disappointment from most perspectives.
          >> I know a lot of people use and install these.
          >>
          >> Are there any suggestions for systems?








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