Seven servers (yes, I know they are VMs), as awesome as Zimbra may be, is a
little ridiculous for a few hundred users.

On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:

> I have a few hundred mailboxes.
>
> I don't really have much for user support issues. I've had to revoke
> accounts a couple times from users that kept handing out their password
> like it was candy at a parade. No real forgotten password problems. Setup
> just works. Hack attempts are shut down before they even try valid
> credentials.
>
> I'm running a seven server Zimbra cluster. Whenever I can get a little bit
> of time, it'll be geo and network diverse (separate cluster for all but
> mailboxes elsewhere with the mailboxes coming in about a year). It will be
> up to about 14 servers by then.
>
>
>
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> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
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> *From: *"Lewis Bergman" <[email protected]>
> *To: *[email protected]
> *Sent: *Thursday, November 5, 2015 8:29:00 AM
>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Roundcube
>
> How many thousands of users do you have? Running the service is pretty
> cheap. I built my own sendmail+Dovecot system which was really cheap. Then
> I got to a place where I didn't want my time tied up with that so we went
> to Magicmail which was still pretty cheap. Through all of it it was the
> support that was the big dollar sign. If you set expectations differently
> maybe yours would be cheaper. All I know is I spent a lot of user tech
> support time on it. More than anything else by far. Kind of a hidden
> expense but definitely still there. We had, I think, 8000 users on the
> system when we sold. Maybe a couple hundred domains.
>
> On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 8:11 AM Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> What are people doing that's so expensive? I could have 10x - 50x the
>> number of mailboxes as I have and it wouldn't cost me any more than it does
>> now, other than some disks....  which aren't expensive.
>>
>> I guess I would probably move from the community version to the service
>> provider version, but at that point that's under $0.20/mailbox/month. Not
>> really a major expense.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: *"Lewis Bergman" <[email protected]>
>> *To: *[email protected]
>> *Sent: *Thursday, November 5, 2015 8:08:29 AM
>>
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Roundcube
>>
>> For me it wasn't about difficulty it was about expense. Email, at least
>> how we did it, was a cost center not a profit center. I kept it until I
>> sold and wish I would have ditched it much sooner. It was by far the
>> biggest tech support PITA.
>>
>> I did learn afterward that the longer someone has an email address the
>> more they are willing to pay to keep it. I have been raising he fee we
>> charge to use those old emails. I am now at $250 a year for a single email
>> and I have people begging me not to cut it off. I am still going to, but I
>> think it is interesting since I used to give it away.
>>
>> I guess what I am saying is that if you do not charge a decent amount for
>> it, why do it? The there is the whole minimum volume to be profitable thing
>> that comes into play. I just would not keep doing something that doesn't
>> make money. If it does, more power to you.
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 7:18 AM Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> There seems to be two camps. One where people are running away form
>>> their own e-mail servers and then those that embrace it. I haven't found
>>> e-mail to be that difficult to manage.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>>> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>>>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From: *"Chuck Hogg" <[email protected]>
>>> *To: *[email protected]
>>> *Sent: *Thursday, November 5, 2015 6:01:35 AM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Roundcube
>>>
>>>
>>> I hope you are charging handsomely for email.  We just quit it for our
>>> customer base...and only had 2-3 complaints.  Everyone already has an email
>>> address.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Chuck
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 3:22 AM, Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Any tips of tricks for success with using Roundcube to provide webmail
>>>> to individual end users (not a single domain corporate environment)?
>>>>
>>>> Server side is postfix + spamassassin + dovecot.
>>>>
>>>> I have a successful 'test' setup of roundcube running in a VM doing
>>>> TLSv1.2 on smtp and imap, logged into several user accounts on test domains
>>>> on the dovecot server.
>>>>
>>>> Wondering if anyone has run into hiccups or weird things when using
>>>> roundcube in a production environment.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>

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