There are other CPE that will talk to our base stations. We are 
standards-based, though we do add features above the standard. Any standard 
band 43 TDD CPE should be able to talk to our base station. Now, those CPE 
using category 4 LTE chipsets won’t, but no doubt there may be some others out 
there using newer chipset. That’s the benefit of avoiding proprietary gear.

Next question?

Patrick Leary, Telrad
727-501-3735

From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 12:48 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Official Telrad response re MTU size

If the CPE doesn't support 1600 in its current incarnation and won't until some 
time in Q1 2016, my point stands... There is no alternate CPE that will talk to 
your BTS, is there?  I don't think 1600 as a minimum is too much to ask for in 
such an expensive product.
I know of many non-WISP ISPs that operate large, serious backbone networks and 
last-mile metro E networks. None of them would touch a non-MPLS capable piece 
of transport equipment, whether fiber or microwave, with a ten foot pole.

On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Patrick Leary 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Just re-reading your message Eric and it has lots of assumptions never made, 
such as your assumption the BTS doesn’t support the larger MTUs. That’s you 
reading into things that have not been said. The eNodeBs can do up to 1692, as 
can the EPC. The CPE is the bottleneck due to the chipset limitation of this 
current version.

Patrick Leary, Telrad
727-501-3735

From: Af [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf 
Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 8:35 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Official Telrad response re MTU size

I guess nobody ever thought that an ISP might ever want to deploy MPLS-capable 
edge routers at a CPE?  Considering the cost of the CPE radios and the APs it's 
pretty weird they do not support a 1600 byte MTU.
Before anyone says "MPLS customers should be on their own PTP link if they're 
such an important business", there are numerous use cases for an MPLS customer 
router on smaller branch office size sites.

On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 4:50 AM, Patrick Leary 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Here you go folks. If this generates more questions, post them and I’ll seek 
more answers:

Regarding the threads about MTU settings to run optimally, here is an official 
response:

“In both WiMAX and LTE the UE is configured with an MTU setting of 1400.  This 
will enforce either MSS clamping (TCP) , PMTUD (LAN side) or worst case 
fragmentation.  The only time MTU becomes an issue is in bridge mode, in NAT 
mode the end user traffic will be working with a reduced MTU + encapsulation 
headers (28 bytes) i.e. GRE (WiMAX)  GTP (LTE).

Presently the Telrad BreezeWAY EPC can support  1918 and the eNodeB 1692.

Regarding Telrad LTE UEs, the CPE7000 is limited to 1490 and the upcoming 
CPE8000 it will be 1560 (Patrick note: I cannot give an exact timeline on the 
CPE8000 beyond an expectation of end of Q1 2016, could be sooner);

When working in bridge mode you can reduce the MTU of the LAN device or rely on 
the UE to fragment.  Preventing fragmentation is optimal and this can be 
achieved by limiting the MTU side on the LAN device connected to the UE.”

Cheers,

Patrick Leary
Telrad




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