I still very much prefer VMWare (free or commercial depending on needs).  Easy 
to hire staff that know it, easy to integrate with monitoring etc and depending 
on what you need it's not that bad pricewise IMHO

For my personal lab/dev stuff I run VMWare - at $$$job we run various systems 
but on Linux systems it's primarily Proxmox and Windows it's HyperV ... several 
companies I deal with are Xen across the board (which is by far the largest 
sets of deployments out there).  I would run Xen but I just never got around to 
knowing it really well like I do VMWare ... 

-----Original Message-----
From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 5:29 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Proxmox virtualization

> The gains are insignificant with an openvz jail environment compared 
> to a paravirtualized (PV, not HVM) Xen environment. With OpenVZ in its 
> current incarnation you are stuck running a 2.6.32 series ancient 
> kernel which

That's why Proxmox moved to LXC, very similar to Openvz but built into modern 
kernels.  I really like how light weight Openvz and LXC are.  I can run my DNS 
server and Speedtest server as separate containers and they hardly use any 
resources at all.  Works very well with small light weight servers like that.  
Seems like whatever memory you assign a KVM on other hand is gone even when its 
sitting twiddling its thumbs.  Plus containers have very little performance 
penalty regarding CPU or disk I/O.

I really like the ZFS file system that Proxmox 4 has switched too.
Built in mirroring etc. but takes some figuring out.  I am having issues with 
new LXC containers and centos 7 though.  You have to do a number of tweaks to 
get around systemd, apparmor and LXC working together.  I hate having to do 
tweaks.

Are there any affordable competitors to Proxmox?


> significantly reduces support for high performance I/O devices such as 
> the latest 10GbE PCI-Express 3.0 NICs, which are now as cheap as $200 a piece.
> Also nonexistant support for high performance 1500-2000MB/s storage 
> devices such as M.2 format PCI Express SSDs (Samsung, Intel) and 
> support for the motherboard firmwares that enable booting from M.2.

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