The Boston Tea Party was never correctly reported.  The boat that the tea was 
stored on also had sacks of sugar and a few large cans of cream.  

When the Brits saw that the Americans were dumping tea into water but not 
adding cream and sugar they were so incensed at the impropriety of the scene 
that they flew into a rage and thus started the revolutionary war.  

Heard directly from a Bostonian. . . (Tufts University philosophy grad student 
driving a tourist bus, it was a fun trip).

From: Adam Moffett 
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 11:42 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

I'd wager that news as a disinterested third party never existed outside of a 
textbook.  Wasn't the Spanish-American War started by sensational journalism?  

I wonder how coverage of the Boston Tea Party in American papers compared to 
coverage of the same event in British papers.  Or even the coverage by a Tory 
journalist versus a Patriot journalist.

We all see through our own eyes.



On 11/16/2015 12:44 PM, Rory Conaway wrote:

  News as a disinterested third party, is pretty much dead.  All news 
organizations have a political leaning including BBC, Al Jazeera, and NPR.  In 
many cases it’s not what they report, it’s what they fail to report that is 
just as bad or worse.  BBC rarely reports anything negative about the British 
Government and is as bad as the New York Times about not reporting anything 
negative about a Democrat.  Of course both of them do it, but the amount of 
time or the amount of resources will be far less than the opposite side of the 
side of the issue.  Al Jazeera never reports anything bad about the Muslim or 
Islamic faith and NPR is almost as bad as the BBC when it comes to never saying 
anything about a liberal government.  I think NBC, CBS, and ABC have the same 
advisor telling them what negative information not to report on Obama for 
example.  As for NPR, they lost all credibility with me when they fired Juan 
Williams because he said something their management didn’t like and he is a 
huge liberal.

   

  There is an argument now that Google can pretty much influence an election by 
a huge amount by pushing positive news information in their search engine about 
their liberal candidate up while simultaneously doing the same thing in a 
negative light towards a Conservative candidate. 

   

  At this point, it’s pretty much up to us to watch news organizations from 
both sides of the aisle and try to sort out the truth.  

   

  Rory

   

  From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul McCall
  Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 8:11 AM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

   

  +1.  Since we have a pretty good idea of what slant that CNN and Foxnews will 
put on things without looking, respectively, I just glance at that both once in 
a while.  BBC is a good choice.

   

  Paul

   

  From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
  Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 9:34 AM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

   

  BBC is good.  Al Jazeera is surprisingly informative and seems to lack spin.  

  I listen to NPR continually.

   

  Card carrying GOP but am truly libertarian, cannot vote demo primarily due to 
guns and the abortion issue.

   

  Fox news is like eating a whole bag of halloween candy.  After watching fox I 
have to watch some Rachael Maddow to be able to drive straight again. 

  (In reality, I avoid TV news.  Radio and Google News is were most of my 
disinformation comes from).

   

  I don’t like apologists, religious or otherwise.  I like the best truths I 
can find.  

  I really hate partisan politics.  Blood sport all based on pride and self 
aggrandizement.  Does nothing for the people.  

   

  From: Glen Waldrop 

  Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 7:20 AM

  To: [email protected] 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG][WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

   

  You're right on one thing, politics is not as cut and dried as all of that.

  Obama is a jackass.

  Fox news is far from perfect.

  As a businessman though I recommend not calling your potential customers dumb 
though. Fox may be a group of liars, but at this point in time they are the 
least biased news source in the US (50% biased vs 100%). Pretty much all of the 
rest of them are brown nosing the left so bad I can't see how they haven't 
suffocated themselves.

  When I want news with little BS I tend to lean towards BBC myself.

   

   

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Patrick Leary 

    To: [email protected] 

    Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 7:24 AM

    Subject: Re: [AFMUG][WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

     

    The world is such a simple place when everything is Obama’s fault.

     

    Somebody smashes a glass to the ground. 12 years later, people blinded by 
partisanship blame the person who tried to glue some of the pieces back 
together, but the glass still won’t hold water so it must be his fault. 
Extremely disordered cognitive functioning.

     

    …Never mind the real subtleties all the “informed” people on the Right seem 
to forget, chief among them that the IRAQI POLITICIANS SAID THE ONLY WAY WE 
COULD KEEP OUR TROOPS IN COUNTRY WAS TO REMOVE THEIR IMMUNITY AND MAKE THEM 
SUBJECT TO LIABILITY AND PROSECUTION. No one on this side of the pond wanted 
that, from the DoD to BOTH parties. Of course, FOX viewers either are too dumb 
to know this or intentionally pretend that was not the reality, in order to 
take yet another “it’s Obama’s fault” grade school insult. It’s just way more 
satisfying or simpler for their juvenile world view to believe “it’s Obama’s 
fault!” What, are you 10 years old?

     

    
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/05/world/middleeast/iraqis-say-no-to-immunity-for-remaining-american-troops.html?_r=0

     

    People really need to educate themselves before spewing childish partisan 
memes.

     

    Patrick

     

    From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway
    Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 8:53 AM
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

     

    We had our chance to stop it in Iraq, we cut and run.  

     

    And you are right, we didn’t do the right bombing in Vietnam to stop that 
war.  And what Ford did at the end is the lesson Obama should have learned 
which could have prevented much of what happened in the Middle East including 
ISIS.  Apparently they didn’t teach history to at Harvard.  Imagine the 
influence a multi-cultural and stable Iraqi government would have had on the 
region.

     

    Rory

     

    From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman
    Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 6:31 AM
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

     

    Collateral damage is highly underrated. Vietnam had no wholesale bombing 
like WWII. that is one reason Vietnam, and the rest of these conflicts, last so 
long. 
    The horror of war has to be brought to everyone, including those making the 
decisions, to bring it to an end.

    But having said that, this Muslim extremists movement has been been going 
on for about 700 years so it may be to much to expect to be out of war again. 
There may be a lull, but I think the entire world has been drawn into the 
middle East quagmire.

    The primary cause damn sure isn't a two degrees warming tend in a couple 
decades.

     

    On Sun, Nov 15, 2015, 7:05 AM Rory Conaway <[email protected]> wrote:

      The problem is that they are basically imbedded with civilians.   How do 
you kill them without taking out everyone else.  That is the problem we have 
had all along.  Door-to-door warfare is all that you can do but it’s also the 
most dangerous for our soldiers and nobody is going to allow wholesale bombing 
like Nixon did in Vietnam.  

       

      We also burned a lot of good will in all the countries we need to do this 
with when we got the local civilians to act as translators and informants and 
abandoned them after the war, the highest profile of them the doctor in 
Pakistan.  Even he is still in jail years later but the reality is, nobody 
trusts us any more in those regions.  We are not a reliable ally. 

       

      Rory

       

      From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
      Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2015 11:06 AM
      To: Animal Farm <[email protected]>


      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

       

      as much as i hate war and killing....I agree we need to make a parking 
lot out of them...




      Jaime Solorza

      Wireless Systems Architect

      915-861-1390

       

      On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

        The more of this that happens, the more the rest of the world will 
unite to rub them out.  I am a hopeless optimist.  

         

        From: Jaime Solorza 

        Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2015 7:52 AM

        To: Animal Farm 

        Subject: Re: [AFMUG][WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

         

        Yes. I am praying for them and the world.   What a tragedy.. It is 
beyond barbaric..its evil for the sake of evil. 

        Jaime Solorza

        On Nov 13, 2015 10:15 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <[email protected]> 
wrote:

           

          Oui , et pas seulement cela , nos cœurs et nos prières pour tous ceux 
qui sont touchés par cette Sensless actes brabaric .



          Faisal Imtiaz

          Snappy Internet & Telecom
          7266 SW 48 Street
          Miami, FL 33155
          Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

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            From: "Patrick Leary" <[email protected]>
            To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>, "Telrad List" 
<[email protected]>, [email protected], [email protected]
            Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 7:46:29 PM
            Subject: [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

            Tonght, chaque personne libre est un Parisien.

             

            Patrick Leary

            Telrad





            
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