torrent traffic has become a non issue now that there is equipment that
actually handles the pps load, an old avarion AP would crumble at just a
few thousand pps, and dlink routers croaked at 200, its just bandwidth now.
I also think the torrent architecture has moved to a more efficient method,
p2p in general started in dialup, so tiny fragments, but now a single peer
can move higher volume so it takes less peers or at least less time per
peer with less duplicate traffic.
Without DPI theres no way to know the content, and even with it, there's
really no way to know the entitlement to the content, so its not really our
business if its not adversely affecting the network, in which case, content
is still irrelevant and its solely a TOS/AUP network preservation issue.
DMCA is a different issue all together since torrenting is not the only
mechanism, its just the lowest hanging fruit to target for the takedown
extortion notices.
The biggest threat to an ISP network is 4ktv

On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:29 PM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Cox is legally right.  The problem is that analysis of BitTorrent is that
> 85% of the traffic on BitTorrent is copyrighted material.  If it was a
> couple percent, it wouldn’t be an issue.  However, if you know that 85% of
> the people in an area are going to commit a crime, the government is saying
> that you have a legal obligation to help them.  That’s a ridiculous
> argument.  If 100% of the traffic on BitTorrent was copyrighted, would it
> be okay to stop them or maybe 98%, 95%, etc…
>
>
>
> If we have to let torrent users go to town, then I’m going to add a $500
> fee for every time a user gets me a DCMA notice that I have to deal with.
> Then there is the problem for those of us who don’t use public IP addresses
> and these users can get us blacklisted pretty quickly which makes it tough
> for everyone.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Brett A Mansfield
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 17, 2015 7:46 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] BitTorrent is not piracy
>
>
>
> That is an excellent article! And as much as I hate BitTorrent because of
> the resources it uses on my network, I am completely in Cox side here. The
> customer pays for their service, they should be allowed to do what they
> want with it.
>
>
>
> Disclaimer: the only time I've heard anything about either side of this
> issue was in this article that Rory posted, so my understanding of this
> particular lawsuit may be skewed.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Brett A Mansfield
>
>
> On Nov 17, 2015, at 7:28 PM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> https://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-usage-doesnt-equal-piracy-cox-tells-court-151115/
>
>
>
> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
>
>
> “If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you
> off. — Bill Veeck
>
>
>
>


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