So what do you use for a pbx and phones?

On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 6:11 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <[email protected]> wrote:
> The only value that such appliances offer, is  perception and illusion
> ......which can be of value to certain types of folks and deployment.
>
> They spend a lot of time and money trying to create the warm fuzzy that they
> are doing something special with that appliance.. be it a phone system or
> firewall.
>
> Most of them are running linux variant with a highly masking web interface,
> along with heavily restricted feature capabilities.
>
> One can get a lot more value from other much less expensive systems, but
> they do require a small learning curve to deal with...
>
> HostedPBX when done right offers a much better value than any appliance
> phone system.
> (hosted pbx can be something as simple as Freepbx or any of the other
> distros running on a small box or a vm)
>
> Same goes for firewalls... If one has a semi reasonable understanding of
> packets and traffic, IP Tables (linux firewall) or a small MT is much more
> flexible and reliable that these appliances...
>
> Of course YMMV.
>
> Regards
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected]
>
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>
> From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 5:47:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Phone System
>
> Their UTM firewalls are outstanding, support impeccable, RMA process superb.
> Firmware updates are a PITA because of the random changes, like taking out
> DHCP relay from the GUI requiring CLI. Their sizing calculator is pretty
> spot on. They do a decent trade in for competitor replacement, just send a
> serial and certificate of destruction.
> It does suck if you dont do the maintenance contract you lose some of the
> UTM like webfiltering
> They have some 3com partnership, or they bought hem, something to that
> effect.
> Their switches are a bit big for the britches, I wasnt impressed.
>
> It can get pricey though
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Paul Stewart <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Interesting …. Anyone use Fortinet gear for anything else?  They keep
>> hitting my radar for certain applications but have no real hands on with
>> it…. They seem to make a lot of options…
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 5:34 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Phone System
>>
>>
>>
>> we do fortinet only
>>
>> You can do it without a problem
>>
>> its a good system as long as you realize is a voip pbx in a box, its not
>> as configurable as some, but thats the beauty, you have a clear line of can
>> do and cannot do
>>
>> Its designed to be an end user system as in you sell it to a customer and
>> they manage it through their support contract with fortinet
>>
>> We have one customer who did that, he has had good success with self
>> management, and hes a dolt at times.
>>
>> They bought Talkswitch so its actually a rebranded but seasoned system
>>
>> The virtual pbx is more scalable, but without conversion hardware it
>> doesnt do pots
>>
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>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Matt <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> We are looking at upgrading our phone system.  Looking at Fortinet.
>> We have two locations now with separate phone numbers.  Wanting to
>> link the systems over Internet so we can help each other out when one
>> location or other has too many lines ringing.
>>
>> What is everyone else using for a phone system and how do they like it?
>>
>>
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>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
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