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On Tuesday, December 8, 2015, Joshaven Mailing Lists <[email protected]>
wrote:

> How do you avoid grounding… doesn’t the power have a ground?
>
> Isn’t not grounding mean that the best ground would then be through the
> power and data cables in the wire?
>
>
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> On Dec 8, 2015, at 11:28 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
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> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:
>
> dont ground, it just attracts lighting
>
> <ducking>
>
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 10:09 AM, Erich Kaiser <[email protected]
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:
>
>> The question becomes, what are you trying to ground a tower or a
>> non-pen?  If just a non-pen I would do 6 awg,
>>
>> I have always looked at distance from grounding source as well, to make
>> the path of least resistance.   The other thing to look at is if there is
>> actually a good grounding source, you need to check resistance at the
>> rod(s), corrosion plays a HUGE factor into "bad grounds".
>>
>> There are also RF Bibles out there that many guys follow, here is the
>> motorola one:
>>
>>
>> https://sites.auburn.edu/admin/facilities/spw-bid-calendar/11-150%20AU%20Regional%20Airport-Construct%20a%20Self-Supporting%20Radio%20Tower/Project%20Documents/1/Motorola_R56_2005_manual.pdf
>>
>> Just my opinion.
>>
>>
>> Erich Kaiser
>> North Central Tower
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>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:
>>
>>> NEC would lead you to believe that.
>>>
>>> *From:* Josh Luthman
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 08, 2015 8:51 AM
>>> *To:* [email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ground Conductor Size
>>>
>>>
>>> Isn't ground always supposed to be 6 awg?
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
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>>> On Dec 8, 2015 10:48 AM, "Nate Burke" <[email protected]
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is there a chart of 'rule of thumb' for ground conductor size?  I'm
>>>> guessing that like a little satellite dish non-pen, would need a smaller
>>>> ground wire than say a non-pen Sled that can hold a full Cell Array.  Does
>>>> it have somethign to do with the amount of conductive surface area?
>>>>
>>>
>>
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