Maximum permitted leakage from a microwave oven is 1 mW/cm^2, up to 5 mW/cm^2 
empty.


From: Adam Moffett 
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 2:26 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RF exposure concerns

That would be -92dbm on a 1 square meter antenna right?  
Sat TV signals are stronger than that I think....I want to say -80's.

Does channel width matter in this formula?  Seems like there would be more 
total watts if we're summing 30mhz worth of spectrum.




On 12/14/2015 3:19 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

  Found this: “The solar microwave flux is nominally an absolute flux, one 
solar flux unit defined as [the very small amount of] 10 -22-22 Watt per square 
meter per Hertz.”

  So, 10^-22 would be 10^-19 mW  times 6 x 10^9 HZ or 6x10-10mW

  10 log 6x10^-10 = –92 dBm of solar radiation.  Makes sense the satellites are 
probably about that weak too.  


  From: Adam Moffett 
  Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 1:07 PM
  To: [email protected] 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RF exposure concerns

  Right.  I was hoping some chart would show me w/m2 from the sun near 6ghz, 
which I could compare to exposure numbers published by the backhaul 
manufacturer.  Then I could say (backed by primary sources) that it's 10x (or 
whatever) worse to stand in the sun than to be near this dish.




  On 12/14/2015 3:01 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

    Stronger than the satellite signal.  

    From: Adam Moffett 
    Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 12:50 PM
    To: [email protected] 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RF exposure concerns

    What kind of intensity of microwave energy do we receive from the sun?  I 
found several charts in nm, but I couldn't readily find one showing 5-6cm 
wavelengths.


    On 12/14/2015 2:39 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

      tell them 6ghz has been found to dissipate chemtrails, he will get behind 
you

      On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:

        You'll also never convince the crazy ones.  They made up their mind 
before they opened their mouths.
        You can only hope to minimize the fear and uncertainty they can spread.


        On 12/14/2015 1:46 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

          Tell them all that the cell phone in their pocket is exposing them to 
about 1 million times more RF than a rooftop installation.
          Moreover, the 6 GHz system will focus the energy to  "pencil beam " 
that points away from the library.

          Furthermore, their wifi in that building will expose them to 
thousands of times more RF than the rooftop system.
          Does the Library have wifi now?  Do they use cell  phones now?  If so 
they are hypocrites.

          You can get into dBM and antenna patterns but I find it best to keep 
it dumbed down as much as practical.

          -----Original Message----- From: Craig Baird
          Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 11:19 AM
          To: [email protected]
          Subject: [AFMUG] RF exposure concerns

          We have been working with a nearby city to bring Internet service into
          their area.  The city government has been very cooperative because the
          existing service in the area is exceptionally poor.  Our plan is to
          feed the city with a 6 GHz licensed link to the rooftop of the city
          library.  From there we plan to redistribute via unlicensed.  We are
          on the agenda to present our plan for use of the library roof to the
          city council this week.  I just got an e-mail from the City saying
          that a "concerned citizen" has contacted them saying he felt there
          were FCC issues and regulations with placing equipment on the library
          due to potential RF Exposure to "children and customers of the
          library".  Anyway, this guy is preparing an informational packet to
          give to the City Council at the meeting.  Obviously, I'm not sure what
          this informational packet will contain, but I'm pretty certain it will
          largely amount to fear-mongering, and will likely imply that we will
          give cancer to anyone to enters the library.

          I'd like to be prepared with some solid data on RF exposure from 6 GHz
          licensed microwave.  Can anyone point me to something that would be
          helpful?

          Thanks!

          Craig









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