Let me tell you, 53 dB isolation is hard to get.  Even coax will leak at those 
levels.  
Diffraction around any metal edge will bend the signal and it will be down at 
those levels too.  


From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 12:05 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] F/B Video on Cambium forum

What in the world would have 36 or 53 front/back???


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
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Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <[email protected]> wrote:

  Interesting info.. 

  So if we can use sector antenna which have 36/37/or 53 db of Front to back 
ratio, then these would be some serious kick ass antennas ?

  Regards.

  Faisal Imtiaz
  Snappy Internet & Telecom
  7266 SW 48 Street
  Miami, FL 33155
  Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

  Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected]


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    From: "Sriram Chaturvedi" <[email protected]>
    To: [email protected]
    Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 11:31:45 AM
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] F/B Video on Cambium forum

    Hi Ken,  

    You are correct about ATPC taking care of equalizing the UL RSSI at the AP. 

    For downlink, as long as the antenna has good F/B ratio (32 dB like you 
indicated) and the back-to-back APs are set to the same Tx power, it should 
help. But maintaining 32 dB F/B ratio throughout the beam-width of the antenna 
can be a challenge. 


    Thanks,
    Sriram

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      On Dec 22, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
      It probably seems that F/B ratio doesn’t need explaining.  The biggest 
hurdle is probably when WISPs start looking at third party antennas and other 
shiny objects (like price and antenna gain) distract them from looking for a 
F/B spec around 32 dB if they ever want to do frequency reuse.  The main thing 
this video probably does is to focus on why F/B ratio is important, even with 
GPS sync.

      I would add that uplink interference can be worse because of varying 
distance to SMs.  A near SM can blast through the backside of the sector and 
overwhelm the signal from a distant SM on the front side.  ATPC can help with 
uplink interference by at least equalizing the received levels from near and 
far SMs, but ATPC typically doesn’t help with downlink interference.


      From: Sakid Ahmed
      Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 9:51 AM
      To: [email protected]
      Subject: [AFMUG] F/B Video on Cambium forum

      Hello,
      We just uploaded a video about F/B ratio on our community forum. Curious 
to get some feedback from all the experts here.

      
http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/ePMP-1000/What-is-front-to-back-ratio/m-p/47820


      Thanks
      Sakid


      Sakid Ahmed
      [email protected]
      (M) 1-773-780-5226 Skype: Sakid.ahmed
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      From: Af <[email protected]> on behalf of Chuck McCown 
<[email protected]>
      Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
      Date: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 at 8:57 AM
      To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Headphone adapter


      Silly, you could have made it up in volume...

      From: Forrest Christian (List Account)
      Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 3:24 AM
      To: af
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Headphone adapter

      I really wish I could find a custom cable manufacturer who I could have 
make these for me again.   
      The company I was having make them kept raising the per piece prices and 
also  the minimum order... then was shocked when I refused to order several 
years worth for twice what I was currently charging my customers.
      On Dec 21, 2015 4:17 PM, "George Skorup" <[email protected]> wrote:

        That would need to be a 6p6c/rj12. You could easily buy that or 
anything like it, clip the rj plug off and crimp a new properly wired rj12 on 
it.

        The best kits were the ones Forrest had made that were molded and are 
no longer made. And of course every freakin tech lost them.


        On 12/21/2015 3:44 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

          Actually, this link may be better
          
http://m.aliexpress.com/item/32284032088.html?adminSeq=220301292&productId=32284032088&productId=32284032088&shopNumber=1019232&productSubject=Free-Shipping-3-5MM-Phone-Headset-to-RJ9-RJ10-RJ22-Headset-Plug-Adapter-3-5MM-to&detailNewVersion=2&tracelog=wwwdetail2mobilesitedetail
          On Dec 21, 2015 3:36 PM, "Nate Burke" <[email protected]> wrote:

            I didn't see it on the PDMNet website, I emailed them to ask.  I"m 
pretty sure that although Monoprice has everything else, including completely 
outfitting your elementary school band, they don't have these adapters.



            On 12/21/2015 3:22 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

              SurplusWirelessGear and maybe PDMNet sell them ready to go, I 
believe.


              Josh Luthman
              Office: 937-552-2340
              Direct: 937-552-2343
              1100 Wayne St
              Suite 1337
              Troy, OH 45373

              On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 4:05 PM, Josh Reynolds 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                Probably monoprice.
                Monoprice.com
                On Dec 21, 2015 3:02 PM, "Nate Burke" <[email protected]> 
wrote:

                  Does anybody sell the RJ14 to Headphone jack premade at a 
reasonable price, <$10?  I used to have a pile of them, but I Can't find them 
now, and I'm too lazy to go get the components to make one.

                  I think once upon a time, someone was selling a default plug 
and headphone adapter in a combo pack.









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